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John@Fabspeed 01-10-2017 08:35 AM

Also, if anyone has any questions or interest in any of the data above for their cars please don't hesitate to shoot me a PM/email/call at my details below in my signature. Fabspeed offers a lot of products for our cars, some not even on our website (brakes, wheels, suspension, etc) and i'd love to work with you guys :cheers:

That means you Afshin! Tell your wife to stop remodeling the house so we can have some fun together :burnout:

Gbboenda 01-10-2017 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport (Post 13872027)

As it is a rare occasion to find someone that has done this is such detail, could you describe in a bit more detail the improvement in performance/drivability and the sound? I know you touched on this a bit already, but the more information the better for the community and we would love some more feedback to share on our product page :cheers:


Once Mr Winter releases his grip on the South East I will take the car out for some testing and feedback. Itching to get it on the road :D

Gbboenda 01-10-2017 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport (Post 13872027)
Ah the infamous boxster/cayman powerdip haha. This has been shown on every dyno of a stock 987/981 I have ever seen, including the new Boxster Spyder/GT4. One thing all these cars have in common...a Very restrictive header design.



I think Ubermench was referring to the dip on my dyno chart below 2,000 rpm in sacrifice for an improved, very smooth mid range. I don't see the same <2,000 RPM dip on your dyno charts?

christallon 01-10-2017 07:04 PM

But seriously the other benefit of the PCCB's is the reduced brake dust which I personally find of value. :o
Very cool, looking forward to getting the weights of the standard brakes :thumbup:[/QUOTE]

Afshin, I could not agree more regarding the brake dust. PCCB's are incredible here. My Turbo S wheels were almost always immaculate.

Joe@Fabspeed 01-10-2017 07:21 PM

Its Joe Fabiani at Fabspeed Motorsport

I also have a 2011 Boxster Spyder. I love the car top up or down. If anyone in the area cruise by they can drive my cars and TRY out the systems.

Fabspeed sport headers feature HJS German imported 200 cell Emitec catalytic converters that flow 93% of a straight pipe with no CEL light. Cruise by for a tour of Fabspeed Motorsport USA.

John@Fabspeed 01-16-2017 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Gbboenda (Post 13873453)
Once Mr Winter releases his grip on the South East I will take the car out for some testing and feedback. Itching to get it on the road :D

Throw some snow tires on it and go to town :thumbup:


Originally Posted by Gbboenda (Post 13873497)
I think Ubermench was referring to the dip on my dyno chart below 2,000 rpm in sacrifice for an improved, very smooth mid range. I don't see the same <2,000 RPM dip on your dyno charts?

Your post mod dyno runs probably weren't given the full beans that early on or the dyno data wasn't capturing properly when he first hit the gas on the dyno. I wouldn't read into the dip that low, I've never felt it on my car of any others I drove.

Marine Blue 01-16-2017 07:24 PM

I too wonder about that dip although from a slightly different perspective. Many have complained that the DFI tuning from the factory seems to cause occasional hesitation in the throttle. This has been observed on 997.2/987.2 and early 981's. It's not frequent but it happens and I have felt it a handful of times also. I wonder if the dyno captured this?

Terry T. 01-18-2017 11:02 PM

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Gbboenda, thank you so much for doing this research! I just this minute sent John at Fabspeed a question on this very subject, and then I found your post (I typically do things bass-ackwards like that). I have a 987.2 Cayman S with the ipd plenum/GT3 throttle body and a Billy Boat exhaust, and I love it. But . . . it needs more power. My wife says 3.8 conversion is off the table, and a GT4 is out of reach, so I have to continue to tweak what I have. These headers look like a logical next step, especially with the gains you got.

And hey, you live in Atlanta . . . how cold can it get? Tell the kids to tough it out! :D

Terry

John@Fabspeed 01-19-2017 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Terry T. (Post 13893944)
Gbboenda, thank you so much for doing this research! I just this minute sent John at Fabspeed a question on this very subject, and then I found your post (I typically do things bass-ackwards like that). I have a 987.2 Cayman S with the ipd plenum/GT3 throttle body and a Billy Boat exhaust, and I love it. But . . . it needs more power. My wife says 3.8 conversion is off the table, and a GT4 is out of reach, so I have to continue to tweak what I have. These headers look like a logical next step, especially with the gains you got.

And hey, you live in Atlanta . . . how cold can it get? Tell the kids to tough it out! :D

Terry

Lol, just saw your email Terry. Response heading your way. Sick car by the way, if you are nearby we should hit the track together this year :cheers:

Terry T. 01-20-2017 03:14 PM

Well, it would be a drive, John--I'm in Seattle.

John@Fabspeed 01-20-2017 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Terry T. (Post 13898151)
Well, it would be a drive, John--I'm in Seattle.

Well that's not what I was hoping to hear :banghead:

Gbboenda 01-20-2017 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Gbboenda (Post 13871572)


Well, yes. PCCB: 4 calipers and 8 pads weigh in at 19.3 kg while rotors are 13.3 kg per axle. Total 45.9 kg. Reds: unfortunately, we will be kept in suspense till I am back from business trip end of next week - sitting in boxes in my garage and will be put on a scale when I am back. Stay tuned.


Back in town, I rushed into my garage and put the Red brake components on a scale. Since it is somewhat a new topic, I started a new thread to cover it


https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-...l#post13898991



(the sharp reader will notice that there is a slight difference between the PCCB weight quoted above and in the new thread. It is because above weight includes shipping materials)

66mustang 01-20-2017 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport (Post 13872027)



For your reference the factory PSE system on the Cayman R and Boxster Spyder have a slightly larger inlet pipe diameter than the PSE systems on the standard S or Base models (5mm if memory serves me right). Although seemingly small, is does mean on the Spyder he has a bit less power potential with a catback upgrade than an S model.

They are 10mm larger, which is how the Spyder, R, and Black Series have the extra 10 HP


Originally Posted by Terry T. (Post 13893944)

And hey, you live in Atlanta . . . how cold can it get? Tell the kids to tough it out! :D

Terry

2 weeks ago our high temperature was 25 for 3 days in a row. January and February can be really cold. Other times not so much. This week it has been in the 70's

66mustang 01-20-2017 08:46 PM

I use Freed for all of my service on my car. Sean is awesome and knows his stuff.

OP, I would love to hear your car sometime

A432 01-20-2017 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by 66mustang (Post 13899030)
They are 10mm larger, which is how the Spyder, R, and Black Series have the extra 10 HP

In the interest of accuracy, John is correct, they are 50mm vs. 55mm.


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