F boxster versus Spec boxster
#1
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F boxster versus Spec boxster
Thinking about building or buying a Boxster S for Stock class F. Would use for DE for 2017 and start club racing 2018.
Other than the donor car, is there any real difference in the build assuming a 2002-2004 Boxster S as a starting point? I've seen suspension kits for Spec Boxster from Tarret and Tune RS. I assume these would work for a F as well.
Any insight into the differences bewtween these two builds would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
Other than the donor car, is there any real difference in the build assuming a 2002-2004 Boxster S as a starting point? I've seen suspension kits for Spec Boxster from Tarret and Tune RS. I assume these would work for a F as well.
Any insight into the differences bewtween these two builds would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
#2
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Here's your car, all done up. Great price too:
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...-37-400-a.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...-37-400-a.html
#3
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Here's your car, all done up. Great price too:
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...-37-400-a.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...-37-400-a.html
I'm not sure if I want to buy a car already done or build one. I like wrenching almost as much as driving and I've got a great local shop to handle the cage and safety issues I wouldn't be comfortable with.
ANyone else with info on differences between F class and Spec?
#4
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Oh, there will be wrenching -- as much as you'll be willing to take over from your shop -- regardless of which car you get.
#5
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Compare the parts/mods list in the previous link with the list in a SPB for sale ad like this:
https://rennlist.com/forums/spec-box...-for-sale.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/spec-box...-for-sale.html
#6
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To be competitive in F, you will need to spend more on things like shocks, exhaust and tires which are open in F and therefore the sky's the limit. In SPB these things are mandated and reasonably affordable.
As said before, buying a built car is almost always cheaper.
As said before, buying a built car is almost always cheaper.
#7
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Here is a link to the rules:
PCA 2016 Rule Book
Page 12 onwards shows what is allowed in Stock classes (like F). Every time it says "Free" (like shocks, suspension parts, exhaust, tires, etc.) it means that you will spend a lot of money to build a competitive car. Shocks alone can be $6k+.
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#8
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Spec Boxsters are gen 1 plain jane cars from 1997-1999 with 2.5 liter motors.
F class Boxster is a different animal based on newer Boxster S. The platforms aren't interchangeable. Read the rules and choose one or the other.
Dynamically quite different in terms of shock package, tire, allowable suspension bits, and perhaps most importantly an LSD in F class. The F class car also has more hp and a significantly more robust transmission.
Apples and oranges. As others have mentioned, costs are more constrained in SPB.
F class Boxster is a different animal based on newer Boxster S. The platforms aren't interchangeable. Read the rules and choose one or the other.
Dynamically quite different in terms of shock package, tire, allowable suspension bits, and perhaps most importantly an LSD in F class. The F class car also has more hp and a significantly more robust transmission.
Apples and oranges. As others have mentioned, costs are more constrained in SPB.
#9
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Thanks for all the reply's. Learning alot before making the purchase. One thing I have decided...I will be "moving up" from my 7.2 GT3 to a Boxster next season
(Keeping the GT3 though. Can't bear to part with it.)
(Keeping the GT3 though. Can't bear to part with it.)
#10
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Also keeping the GT3, for now.
#11
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My advice to those who are building cars on your own, is to spend time getting to know a shop that has a strong representation in SPB (any class for that matter) and talk to them about specific things like the cage design, car layout etc. Most of the common mistakes I see in car builds could be avoided for little to no cost differential, but make big differences to how the car handles and drives. As you move further long the evolution of you and car, using a shop to help get the car and you to perform to the level that makes a difference and help you podium. The sooner you start down this path, the easier the transition is longer term.
All the shops I know, would happily help you understand the key points.
All the shops I know, would happily help you understand the key points.
#12
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Jeff Lanka here, also Metro. I'm sort of in the same boat, originally had (still have) a 991 GT3 and realized it was too much car for me to learn on, so I had Bill Rudtner build me a spec boxster which I'm currently tracking exclusively. It turns out I love the spec boxster, don't mind at all pointing people by at DEs. My goal is also to start club racing. Some of the guys who have SPBs told me I should already start club racing but I personally feel I need another season of DE before jumping into the deep end so to speak. I also had the honor of having Matt Muller as an instructor last year at Summit Point, boy is he good. Probably never get up to that skill level but thats OK because I'm having a blast.
It turns out you don't need high horsepower to have fun. The fun is in the turns (and the skill).
I would go with SPB
It turns out you don't need high horsepower to have fun. The fun is in the turns (and the skill).
I would go with SPB
#13
Im also moving down from my GT4 to SPB now. I've missed racing and this seems to be the best way to get back to it, to spec instead of $$ racing and to have good sized fields. Hope to meet some of you soon.
#15
Cant wait to meet up..