vodavoda

So hear me out. There has been a number of threads about the cost of the .2GT3 and “Added Dealer Mark-Ups” (ADMs) with Rennlisters chipping in with opinions supporting different viewpoints ranging from “I'm switching to McLaren” to “just get out and drive and quit worrying about price”, etc. Is this another one of those threads? Maybe….not quite sure…..
As I wait patiently (OK, maybe not so patiently) for the .2GT3 to become available, I’ve been thinking about a couple different angles on the market, etc. I asked myself today, “Why the hell would I even consider buying a .1GT3 knowing what we know about the CEL issues, and if I owned one right now, why wouldn’t I “firesale” it to unload it ASAP?”
I mean, really. Here’s what we know about the .1GT3 from probably one of, if not THE, most reliable sources available:
2. Look at the pics below….. enough said

So what sense does it make to drop $130-150K on a .1GT3, when you may be on the hook for $30-40K in “repairs” (not a definitive fix) that may only act as a Band Aid and need to be done again when the failure occurs again? Now figuring the failure cost, you’ve spent between $160-190K on a .1GT3. These numbers aren’t far off what a .2GT3 will be with ADMs, and if you get in at MSRP on a .2GT3, then it is actually cheaper than a used .1GT3.

This isn’t even figuring in the PITA factor of the .1GT3. Let’s face it, PAC will likely not warranty these cars forever. How could they? And do you think they will recall them all and drop in the .2 motor? Buying a .1GT3 is just catching a falling knife. As more potential buyers find out about the problems (or potential problems) and when the .2’s are more readily available, the .1 market will completely dump….completely dump …. Why wouldn’t it?
(Ok, off the soapbox, stepping away from the keyboard, back to waiting for the .2.....)

ChrisF

RealityGT

I honestly don't get these posts.. why antagonize the .1 owners? If they are happy, what's it matter to anyone else.. Buy what you can afford, and drive it until you feel it in your soul.. -Rinse & Repeat...

ATXGT3

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

destaccado

Yep. The 991.1 sold well because it brought in all the PDK guys and Porsche made the 991.1 owners their beta testers.

Get on board the 991.2 train while you can now that there's a true motorsports-derived engine involved.

I wouldn't be surprised if the 991.1 GT3 is considered the '911 SC' of the GT3 family in the future and the least desirable model. As far as I'm concerned, it already is.

Alan Smithee

^ The 911SC has always been respected and many consider it the most robust 911 ever made (once the air box is vented and oil-fed chain tensioners are fitted).

I think you are referring to the 'mid-years' (1975-1977) that came before it...

RobbieRob

I think myself and every other .1 owner should just burn our cars at the stake. Great and informative post???

robmypro

How many of these posts do we really need?

consolidated

rockers don't scare me, I lived thru IMS, coolant hoses, centerlocks.

robmypro

OP, I think there are several things you are not factoring in. First, there are no guarantees that the new GT3 won't have a serious issue. No way to know at this point. Second, you assume that if/when this issue comes up out of warranty, Porsche is going to say "not my problem."

You have to consider that every 991 GT3, GT3 RS and 911 R are prone to this issue. And it is very well documented. In the world we live in today, bad PR is really a killer for any company, including Porsche. What do you think is going to happen the first time Porsche tries to deny a claim out of warranty for this issue? It is just not happening. The problem is too big. I fully expect at some point that all 991.1 GT3. RS and 911 R owners will get extended warranties.

Is there some uncertainty? Yeah. But are we all facing doom? Nope. I just enjoy driving mine and try not to worry about such things.

ATXGT3

I know a dealer that will buy everyone for .10 on the dollar. It's the 'catching the falling knife' sale this weekend only.

He is also selling the machines to freeze dry food.

The world is ending--get out now--.10 on the dollar is a steal.

My god OP you need to go buy something to occupy your time as you 'wait for your .2GT3' that may have a worse issue :-)

I'd go buy one of those McLarens if I were you...excellent 'investments'.


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neanicu

+1


And to add : to be honest,the .1 GT3 is a pretty sweet car when it's running well. It sounds and looks great!
If you buy one now you'll have 2 more years of warranty in most of them and you can buy some more after that. Done.
I personally don't think I would keep any of the new DFIs with complicated electronics past warranty anyway. And that includes GT4 and the .2 GT3.
Unless the car is at a value where I consider it as a throw away car and I have no problem if it blows up.
I mean : look at what the manufacturers are doing today! Cars are becoming cheaper and cheaper to make and they basically become throw aways when engineers consider " lifetime " 100K miles! Planned obsolescence anyone?!

I bet anyone the 991.2 GT3 has a plastic oil pan!

Zulu Alpha

If my "bastard" 991.1 engine turns out to be a dud then so be it. I think it would make for a great coffee table, on top of that, the car would look beautiful hung on the wall. At least I will know my "art" came at a bargain.

Earlierapex

aamersa

Why would any one buy a .1gt3 now? The answer is simple and obvious in my market at least. They can be purchased for $50-60k less than the .2 gt3 plus their warranty is extendable for something like 10 years or so. Also .1gt3 can be in your garage right now as opposed to the earliest deliveries of Sept-Oct for the .2. Most will need to wait even longer. By then the .2gt3RS will be announced. Then the .2gt3 will be a has been model.