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I guess it is. I would never buy a US car with this, I'll just stay in the pre-owned market forever. This will take a bite out of EU sales, freeing more cars for the rest of the world.
I guess it is. I would never buy a US car with this, I'll just stay in the pre-owned market forever. This will take a bite out of EU sales, freeing more cars for the rest of the world.
You’d be smart to avoid cars with this technology. Look at how automated speed/driving behavior tracking was initially and innocently sold to people under the guise of insurance policy rate reduction only to later be used to increase rates or cancel policies, even if the insured hadn’t been cited (…e.g…risk management).
Originally Posted by AlexCeres
It flashes a warning which you can ignore. It’ll all be okay.
Until it’s developed to a point where it cannot be ignored. It’s only a matter of time. When we get updates from NHTSA (…because they are tied into law enforcement traffic enforcement, including DUI research and implementation, etc.), it becomes obvious what the long game is.
The era of personally controlled transportation in this country will be gone in 25 years. Between stuff like this, ridesharing and robotaxis, and the soaring cost of auto insurance - that will be it. Many young people in my family/friends circle aren't even interested in driving anymore.
The era of personally controlled transportation in this country will be gone in 25 years. Between stuff like this, ridesharing and robotaxis, and the soaring cost of auto insurance - that will be it. Many young people in my family/friends circle aren't even interested in driving anymore.
I’ve noticed this phenomenon among the general public as well. Even some applicants for my department didn’t obtain driver’s licenses until it became necessary for the job. Getting your driver’s license at 21? 22? 25? Bananas!
It flashes a warning which you can ignore. It’ll all be okay.
On some Porsche models here in Europe is already active, like my MY 2024 Cayenne.
Presently is just a chime that is set-off for about 3 seconds every time you go above the speed limit identified by the car using the GPS data and the camera recognition.
It is a little annoying but an helpful reminder sometime.
It can be disabled, but turns on with the car every time: this is by law.
The norm gives presently a lot of room to the manufaturers on how to implement this entire array of systems (not just the speed control becomes mandatory in July 2024).
I see two major problems with this sistem going forward:
- potentially it could activate some "active" speeed control (like reducing gas and or braking) creating a conflict with what the driver actually wants to do (overtaking, for example) and this scenario is potentially really problematic
- the GPS and camera can at times get confused by posted speed limits that are not 100% according to standards and create potential problems, like braking in the middle of the highway because the "see" an exit ramp limit
The above problems are already apparent on cars that have "optional" safety systems and driver assistance systems that you can disable, to make them mandatory and to force them on drivers all the time is probably too early.
I believe the regulators in Europe are ideologically driven and keep introducing laws that assume a technology to be mature when it is not, this is just the latest example.
For highway driving these sistems are ok most of the time, on secondary roads or town driving in Europe some are useful (like the collision avoidance) but some are not really ready to take over from the driver as they get very frequent errors.
I had a Cayenne loaner that posted the speed limit of every road I was on . I found it intrusive and annoying . Took a picture at a red light.
That's just a functionality of one of the packages the Cayenne had when you had it. Easy enough to ignore. I actually like it on our Cayenne and wish the 911 had it. I think (not entirely sure) you can turn it off as well.
That's just a functionality of one of the packages the Cayenne had when you had it. Easy enough to ignore. I actually like it on our Cayenne and wish the 911 had it. I think (not entirely sure) you can turn it off as well.
Apple CarPlay map functionality also displays it should you enable it.
I like to moderate my behaviour on roads I wouldn’t otherwise know the posted limit ( backs roads etc )
Traffic sign recognition has been around for awhile, it was in a 2019 Audi of mine, I believe Porsche has it in the InnoDrive adaptive cruise feature that I didn’t spec on my car.
The speed chime thing has also been around for many years, although in the past you've had to set the speed yourself and not have the car do it automatically.
Speed limit display is standard on 992's as part of the maps, based only on GPS though and not displayed in the instruments. As others say that plus the camera recognition is part of a couple of options.
The speed chime has been around for a long time
what is more intrusive is collision warning
I just bought a 2024 RS3 and there this light flashing in red and after researching the manual I found out that it is a collision warning
obviously I was not driving aggressive at all to trigger but apparently is very sensitive
like you need to keep 5-6 car length distance between you and the car ahead of you at a certain speed etc
07-02-2024, 10:01 PM
Is the EU 911 getting speed limit control?
