VERY disappointed with magnesium wheels
#1
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: West Vancouver and San Francisco
Posts: 4,220
Received 1,177 Likes
on
582 Posts
VERY disappointed with magnesium wheels
I had a minor incident - lightly touched wheels with another car while driving side by side. I cannot emphasize enough how light the contact was - imagine two cars driving in parallel side by side and gradually coming closer until their wheels touch. Luckily no body damage beyond rubber marks on PPF for me and minor fender dent for the other car.
But my wheels are a different story. The other car's wheels have just a handful of superficial scratches, most not even through to the metal, and no structural damage. Mine look like I drove over a mine. WTF?
My front wheel cracked, losing all the air, from a very light impact. First, is disturbing because the wheels barely touched - I hit curbs stronger (in other cars) with no cracking or even bending. Of course, the wheels were spinning, so the spinning motion could have caused the damage. But look at the other car's wheels - they almost look like nothing happened. Second, the cracking instead of bending is bad. Modern mags should not be prone to cracking and should bend instead. Forged mag wheels on race cars usually bend when they touch. This shattered like it's ceramic. Interestingly, the crack does look like ceramic - it's powdery white with no metallic sheen, like painted with primer. I wonder why. Does magnesium alloy oxidize so fast?
I could see an excuse for the shattering. Maybe a protruding spoke of the other wheel hit the edge of my rim just right to shatter my wheel with the force of its spinning - slim chance but possible.
But WTF is going on with that paint? It comes off like it's not adhering to the wheel. Or rather it's actually not adhering to the wheel at all but is just a shell over it, like an eggshell. I could peel almost the entire wheel with a fingernail starting from one of the edges. This is not how paint is supposed to be, is it?
Anyway, I'm super disappointed and regret getting these wheels. If my insurance does not replace the wheels, I will switch to an aftermarket set.
But my wheels are a different story. The other car's wheels have just a handful of superficial scratches, most not even through to the metal, and no structural damage. Mine look like I drove over a mine. WTF?
My front wheel cracked, losing all the air, from a very light impact. First, is disturbing because the wheels barely touched - I hit curbs stronger (in other cars) with no cracking or even bending. Of course, the wheels were spinning, so the spinning motion could have caused the damage. But look at the other car's wheels - they almost look like nothing happened. Second, the cracking instead of bending is bad. Modern mags should not be prone to cracking and should bend instead. Forged mag wheels on race cars usually bend when they touch. This shattered like it's ceramic. Interestingly, the crack does look like ceramic - it's powdery white with no metallic sheen, like painted with primer. I wonder why. Does magnesium alloy oxidize so fast?
I could see an excuse for the shattering. Maybe a protruding spoke of the other wheel hit the edge of my rim just right to shatter my wheel with the force of its spinning - slim chance but possible.
But WTF is going on with that paint? It comes off like it's not adhering to the wheel. Or rather it's actually not adhering to the wheel at all but is just a shell over it, like an eggshell. I could peel almost the entire wheel with a fingernail starting from one of the edges. This is not how paint is supposed to be, is it?
Anyway, I'm super disappointed and regret getting these wheels. If my insurance does not replace the wheels, I will switch to an aftermarket set.
Last edited by MaxLTV; 05-22-2024 at 02:07 PM.
#2
Rennlist Member
I had a minor incident - lightly touched wheels with another car while driving side by side. Luckily no body damage beyond rubber marks on PPF for me and minor fender dent for the other car.
But the wheels are a different story. The other car's wheels have just a handful of superficial scratches, most not even through to the metal, and no structural damage. Mine look like I drove over a mine. WTF?
My front wheel cracked, losing all the air, from a very light impact. First, is disturbing because the wheels barely touched - I hit curbs stronger (in other cars) with no cracking or even bending. Of course, the wheels were spinning, so the spinning motion could have caused the damage. But look at the other car's wheels - they almost look like nothing happened. Second, the cracking instead of bending is bad. Modern mags should not be prone to cracking and should bend instead. Forged mag wheels on race cars usually bend when they touch. This shattered like it's ceramic. Interestingly, the crack does look like ceramic - it's powdery white with no metallic sheen, like painted with primer. I wonder why. Does magnesium alloy oxidize so fast?
I could see excuse the shattering. Maybe a protruding spoke of the other wheel hit the edge of my rim just right to shatter my wheel with the force of its spinning - slim chance. but possible.
But WTF is going on with that paint? It comes off like it's not adhering to the wheel. Or rather it's actually not adhering to the wheel at all but is just a shell over it, like an eggshell. I could peel almost the entire wheel with a fingernail starting from one of the edges. This is not how paint is supposed to be, is it?
Anyway, I'm super disappointed and regret getting these wheels. If my insurance does not replace the wheels, I will switch to an aftermarket set.
But the wheels are a different story. The other car's wheels have just a handful of superficial scratches, most not even through to the metal, and no structural damage. Mine look like I drove over a mine. WTF?
My front wheel cracked, losing all the air, from a very light impact. First, is disturbing because the wheels barely touched - I hit curbs stronger (in other cars) with no cracking or even bending. Of course, the wheels were spinning, so the spinning motion could have caused the damage. But look at the other car's wheels - they almost look like nothing happened. Second, the cracking instead of bending is bad. Modern mags should not be prone to cracking and should bend instead. Forged mag wheels on race cars usually bend when they touch. This shattered like it's ceramic. Interestingly, the crack does look like ceramic - it's powdery white with no metallic sheen, like painted with primer. I wonder why. Does magnesium alloy oxidize so fast?
I could see excuse the shattering. Maybe a protruding spoke of the other wheel hit the edge of my rim just right to shatter my wheel with the force of its spinning - slim chance. but possible.
But WTF is going on with that paint? It comes off like it's not adhering to the wheel. Or rather it's actually not adhering to the wheel at all but is just a shell over it, like an eggshell. I could peel almost the entire wheel with a fingernail starting from one of the edges. This is not how paint is supposed to be, is it?
Anyway, I'm super disappointed and regret getting these wheels. If my insurance does not replace the wheels, I will switch to an aftermarket set.
Unfortunately, magnesium wheels shatter rather than bend if they are a purer magnesium alloy. An Al-Mag blend, though slightly heavier than pure magnesium, is a better material for this application.
I recall so many years ago a Carrera GT in Vancouver taking a slide into a curb and shattered the magnesium wheels.
Though my 992 RS with WP is due any day now, I will not be tracking with the mag wheels and have a set of forged 6061 currently in production.
December 12, 2004
Last edited by CarManDSL; 05-21-2024 at 07:13 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Frankdunhill0 (05-24-2024)
#4
I’m afraid to ask but how did your wheels touch another car wheels? Was this a road accident or was it some sort of demonstration?
The following users liked this post:
Frankdunhill0 (05-24-2024)
#5
GT3 player par excellence
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
^ am sure max is on the race track doing DE
The following 2 users liked this post by mooty:
AlexCeres (05-22-2024),
Frankdunhill0 (05-24-2024)
#6
Magnesium wheels are more brittle is my understanding and can be problematic for road wheels. I do think the design of the wheels relative to the BMW matters - the Porsche has a high sharp ridge whereas the BMW is relatively flat with rolled edges.
Touching wheels at speed, I am not remotely surprised that the Mg wheels exploded.
Touching wheels at speed, I am not remotely surprised that the Mg wheels exploded.
The following 2 users liked this post by rk-d:
Frankdunhill0 (05-24-2024),
GrantG (05-21-2024)
The following 4 users liked this post by sechsgang:
Trending Topics
#9
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: West Vancouver and San Francisco
Posts: 4,220
Received 1,177 Likes
on
582 Posts
But what's the deal with paint not being attached to the wheel? It's very thick and tough paint, but it flakes off with barely any effort, literally like peeling an egg. How is it going to fare in the long run?
#12
That BMW rim is likely $1300+.
BMW doesn't really cheap rims anymore. The rims on my 540 were very expensive...
Strange things happen during impacts. Just be happy that your body is ok. Did you buy tire and wheel? You can likely get this fixed with a tire and wheel claim lol. Were the police called? If so, you need to go for diminished value.
BMW doesn't really cheap rims anymore. The rims on my 540 were very expensive...
Strange things happen during impacts. Just be happy that your body is ok. Did you buy tire and wheel? You can likely get this fixed with a tire and wheel claim lol. Were the police called? If so, you need to go for diminished value.
The following users liked this post:
Frankdunhill0 (05-24-2024)
#13
Drifting
Should have got the diamond or titanium wheels, then you could have shredded his.
Last edited by Angryinch; 05-21-2024 at 11:29 PM.
The following 2 users liked this post by Angryinch:
Frankdunhill0 (05-24-2024),
Tedster (05-23-2024)
#14
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: West Vancouver and San Francisco
Posts: 4,220
Received 1,177 Likes
on
582 Posts
The following users liked this post:
Frankdunhill0 (05-24-2024)
#15
Rennlist Member
That BMW rim is likely $1300+.
BMW doesn't really cheap rims anymore. The rims on my 540 were very expensive...
Strange things happen during impacts. Just be happy that your body is ok. Did you buy tire and wheel? You can likely get this fixed with a tire and wheel claim lol. Were the police called? If so, you need to go for diminished value.
BMW doesn't really cheap rims anymore. The rims on my 540 were very expensive...
Strange things happen during impacts. Just be happy that your body is ok. Did you buy tire and wheel? You can likely get this fixed with a tire and wheel claim lol. Were the police called? If so, you need to go for diminished value.