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Old 05-20-2024, 06:52 PM
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If the 992 GT3RS had a carbon tub, how much weight do you think could be saved?

If McLaren can do it in a $180k 570, why cant Porsche?
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Well … one of those companies is profitable and one is not.
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Originally Posted by rezin23
If the 992 GT3RS had a carbon tub, how much weight do you think could be saved?

If McLaren can do it in a $180k 570, why cant Porsche?
The car would weigh less than 3,000lbs that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by rezin23
If the 992 GT3RS had a carbon tub, how much weight do you think could be saved?

If McLaren can do it in a $180k 570, why cant Porsche?

Because they need something to sell us in 2035 for $600k.
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Originally Posted by rezin23
If the 992 GT3RS had a carbon tub, how much weight do you think could be saved?

If McLaren can do it in a $180k 570, why cant Porsche?
Ruf does it…

https://www.ruf-automobile.de/en/modelle/ruf-scr/

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Originally Posted by GrantG

drool

They really build beautiful cars
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Because they need something to sell us in 2035 for $600k.
911, 2600 lbs, 550 hp 4.2l NA ICE, $600k, I’ll bite; manual or not. But must have aggressive PDK software like the “ralley mode” of the Dakar. Haven’t driven the 3RS yet, arrives next month.

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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
The car would weigh less than 3,000lbs that's for sure.
And a GT3RS with a carbon tub would cost another 50k more.
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pretty close to what I'm hoping to accomplish with my project car / S/T clone. It will have S/T fenders, doors, roof, but PDK and 4.5L Deman NA engine w/ 600 hp . . . it will also have RWS, but looking to incorporate some of the RS suspension components - not quite sure how much of that is possible. I have a set of Manthay LW wheels on order, and P101LWs - those should be pretty close to the mag S/T wheels, but also will save some weight by deleting the motorized spoiler, and with the full Akropovic exhaust. I plan on full Resonix sound deadening, so that will add 30+ lbs back. Overall, I hope to have a PDK S/T that weighs close to the same, but with RWS, better sound deadening, and some of the comfort features I've been working on - not to mention 600+ NA HP!
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Originally Posted by rezin23
If the 992 GT3RS had a carbon tub, how much weight do you think could be saved?

If McLaren can do it in a $180k 570, why cant Porsche?
Mine is the 10th post on this thread, yet seems like no one tried to answer your actual question so I will.

Mclaren CF monocoque tub saves around 210lbs . Significant weight loss but not as significant as you might expect.

Much more weight savings in a full carbon monocoque such an Enzo or Mclaren F1, but also dramatically more expensive to produce.
And even just the carbon tub of the Mclaren is still much more expensive than a standard lightweight sports car frame.
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Originally Posted by Drifting
Mine is the 10th post on this thread, yet seems like no one tried to answer your actual question so I will.

Mclaren CF monocoque tub saves around 210lbs . Significant weight loss but not as significant as you might expect.

Much more weight savings in a full carbon monocoque such an Enzo or Mclaren F1, but also dramatically more expensive to produce.
And even just the carbon tub of the Mclaren is still much more expensive than a standard lightweight sports car frame.
Thank you!
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Originally Posted by f4bones
pretty close to what I'm hoping to accomplish with my project car / S/T clone. It will have S/T fenders, doors, roof, but PDK and 4.5L Deman NA engine w/ 600 hp . . . it will also have RWS, but looking to incorporate some of the RS suspension components - not quite sure how much of that is possible. I have a set of Manthay LW wheels on order, and P101LWs - those should be pretty close to the mag S/T wheels, but also will save some weight by deleting the motorized spoiler, and with the full Akropovic exhaust. I plan on full Resonix sound deadening, so that will add 30+ lbs back. Overall, I hope to have a PDK S/T that weighs close to the same, but with RWS, better sound deadening, and some of the comfort features I've been working on - not to mention 600+ NA HP!
Did you already acquire the S/T roof and doors? I remember seeing the fenders when they first arrived.
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Don’t forget about the structure rigidity. Carbon tub is at least 100% stiffer than the chassis in a GT3.

Bugatti Chiron is at 65000nm. 918 chassis is 48000nm. A typical GT GT chassis is in the 25000nm range.


Originally Posted by Drifting
Mine is the 10th post on this thread, yet seems like no one tried to answer your actual question so I will.

Mclaren CF monocoque tub saves around 210lbs . Significant weight loss but not as significant as you might expect.

Much more weight savings in a full carbon monocoque such an Enzo or Mclaren F1, but also dramatically more expensive to produce.
And even just the carbon tub of the Mclaren is still much more expensive than a standard lightweight sports car frame.

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got the S/T roof, and a 2nd set of fenders, but no RT doors yet. . .
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
And a GT3RS with a carbon tub would cost another 50k more.
I'll pony up the $$$ for a sub 3,000lb GT3RS.
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