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Old 06-17-2019, 07:57 PM
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Default 718 GT4 and Spyder officially unveiled

Just saw the press got wind of the official release details.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...e-convertible/

surprised no one posted this yet. All I can say is
Old 06-17-2019, 08:01 PM
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Sad this car is ugly, has the same performance, heavier, and won't be limited
I guess porsche is now going for the money not the customer
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I like the looks but I'm a little underwhelmed with the announcement. As someone with a 981 GT4 for sale, I'm relieved though. Even if it was detuned, I thought a 8,500/9,000 4.0 was coming. 300lbs heavier and an 8,000rpm redline has me feeling better.
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Road & Track article with quotes from Andreas Preuninger
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...s-specs-price/

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Sad this car is ugly, has the same performance, heavier, and won't be limited
I guess porsche is now going for the money not the customer
And you come to the conclusion that the new cars will have the "same performance" as the old how exactly? ...
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Originally Posted by JMartinni
Road & Track article with quotes from Andreas Preuninger
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...s-specs-price/


And you come to the conclusion that the new cars will have the "same performance" as the old how exactly? ...
Just do the math, more weight, more restriction on the co2...same gears
Old 06-17-2019, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick A
Sad this car is ugly, has the same performance, heavier, and won't be limited
I guess porsche is now going for the money not the customer
LOL. Let the previous model owners go into hate overdrive. It happens every time a new model is announced. It's more accurate than an atomic clock. Breaking out the popcorn.

And you are mistaken on the performance too. Just saying.

"With all these changes, the new 718 Cayman GT4 is 10 seconds quicker around the Nürburgring Nordschleife than its predecessor. That means it should run a 7:30 around the 13-mile circuit, which is about five seconds off a new 911 Carrera S. Not bad for a car you have to shift yourself."
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Old 06-17-2019, 09:27 PM
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Ug. They added 30hp, but almost 400lbs of weight? WTH? What could possibly weigh that much over the 981? That must be a typo.

Other than that, I'm excited to see the extra power up top, aero and keeping the manual. Looks like a nice incremental upgrade...assuming it did not put on those pounds.
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Ug. They added 30hp, but almost 400lbs of weight? WTH? What could possibly weigh that much over the 981? That must be a typo.

Other than that, I'm excited to see the extra power up top, aero and keeping the manual. Looks like a nice incremental upgrade...assuming it did not put on those pounds.
It's 30kg heavier. The other 50 come from the fact that Porsche can't advertise option weights as the base weight any more (i.e. pccb and lwb). I'm betting all of that 30kg come from the battery for start/stop and the insert into the exhaust in place of the particulate filter in the US and the particulate filter in ROW. Both easily fixed.

Cars must now be homologated without any weight-saving options ticked, so “this car nominally is about 60 or 80 kilos heavier on paper, but it’s only about 30 kilos heavier in real world if you compare apples to apples,” said Preuninger.
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I hope so, my 981 is about 3000 corner balanced with track wheels and tires. I wonder if you'll be able to disable the start/top and run a lithium ion - talk about bang for your buck weight reduction.
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I was hoping for more myself. I almost waited to buy my 718 in favor of the Spyder. I still love the styling (minus the exhaust which I think is ugly) but performance-wise I don't think I'm missing too much.
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Originally Posted by Patrick A
Just do the math, more weight, more restriction on the co2...same gears

Yet, somehow its 10 seconds faster around the ring....

if that's even close to being true, that's crazy.

TAKE MY MONEY
Old 06-18-2019, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCal-NSX
Yet, somehow its 10 seconds faster around the ring....

if that's even close to being true, that's crazy.

TAKE MY MONEY
Its because of the better aerodynamics. It was definitely a focus the time around.
Old 06-18-2019, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisDM
surprised no one posted this yet. All I can say is
Because there is a thread on the 987/981 forum before this section even started.
https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-...t4-spyder.html
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Not impressed.
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The best part: not limited production. So people can actually go in, order one to their own spec and smile. That's a win.
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