GT car scams
09-19-2018, 03:04 AM
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GT car scams
In the light of what happened at Champion Porsche, I am sure that a lot of us went thru similar experiences. Porsche dealers in this country has been taking advantage of Porschephiles, fans, enthusiasts, or loyalist all this years. It is time for us to demand PCNA to change this by requiring dealers to sell no more than MSRP to customers. Dealers has been taking advantage of us for years because of our loyalty. It is time for us to demand changes. Send your e-mail to customer.commitment@porsche.us and demand that PCNA do something with this "dealer abuse".
I had a good dealer (Monterey) that sold me GT car with MSRP, but it all changes recently when new GM decided to charge huge markup for GT3 I ordered a year ago.
I had a good dealer (Monterey) that sold me GT car with MSRP, but it all changes recently when new GM decided to charge huge markup for GT3 I ordered a year ago.
09-19-2018, 04:31 AM
#3
In the light of what happened at Champion Porsche, I am sure that a lot of us went thru similar experiences. Porsche dealers in this country has been taking advantage of Porschephiles, fans, enthusiasts, or loyalist all this years. It is time for us to demand PCNA to change this by requiring dealers to sell no more than MSRP to customers. Dealers has been taking advantage of us for years because of our loyalty. It is time for us to demand changes. Send your e-mail to customer.commitment@porsche.us and demand that PCNA do something with this "dealer abuse".
I had a good dealer (Monterey) that sold me GT car with MSRP, but it all changes recently when new GM decided to charge huge markup for GT3 I ordered a year ago.
I had a good dealer (Monterey) that sold me GT car with MSRP, but it all changes recently when new GM decided to charge huge markup for GT3 I ordered a year ago.
09-19-2018, 05:34 AM
#5
Buy a Hyundai. Porsche doesn’t give a crap.
Protests are dumb. Protests to complain about 200k cars are dumber. No one has sympathy for us idiots, I mean enthusiasts.
if the policies of Porsche are so egregious for new GT cars, buy a used one or buy another brand. I have a job. I don’t waste time protesting for things that someone living paycheck to paycheck would laugh at.
Protests are dumb. Protests to complain about 200k cars are dumber. No one has sympathy for us idiots, I mean enthusiasts.
if the policies of Porsche are so egregious for new GT cars, buy a used one or buy another brand. I have a job. I don’t waste time protesting for things that someone living paycheck to paycheck would laugh at.
09-19-2018, 06:21 AM
#6
Drifting
Porsche doesn’t care. It’s noble to try, you’ll get an email or call from a low level customer service agent apologizing, but that’s about it. As long as people are willing to get into a bidding war the dealers will simply go with highest bidder. It’s like college basketball tickets/seats where I am from. The number of years you purchased tickets now means very little; it’s all about how much cash you donate to the University that determines your seats now. Is it fair? No, but sadly just part of the game. Good luck!
09-19-2018, 06:40 AM
#7
Nordschleife Master
A lot of people thought robmypro was wasting his time with the engine failures and look what happened. I'm happy to let porsche know that my RS will be my last Porsche until the games stop.
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09-19-2018, 09:01 AM
#8
The sad thing about Champion is the obvious fraud and loss to many people and the dark cloud thrown on the brand and dealers. ADM's and lack of product have frustrated many. The good news is they are truly great cars and there are many wonderful dealers. I have been buying performance cars for 45 years and my current dealer is the best I have ever experienced in all those years starting with the founder, his son and my salesman who has been with the dealership for 35 years. They are there. Just need to find them and don't give the bad ones a second chance.
09-19-2018, 09:37 AM
#9
In the light of what happened at Champion Porsche, I am sure that a lot of us went thru similar experiences. Porsche dealers in this country has been taking advantage of Porschephiles, fans, enthusiasts, or loyalist all this years. It is time for us to demand PCNA to change this by requiring dealers to sell no more than MSRP to customers. Dealers has been taking advantage of us for years because of our loyalty. It is time for us to demand changes. Send your e-mail to customer.commitment@porsche.us and demand that PCNA do something with this "dealer abuse".
I had a good dealer (Monterey) that sold me GT car with MSRP, but it all changes recently when new GM decided to charge huge markup for GT3 I ordered a year ago.
I had a good dealer (Monterey) that sold me GT car with MSRP, but it all changes recently when new GM decided to charge huge markup for GT3 I ordered a year ago.
09-19-2018, 09:40 AM
#10
Race Director
Nice this thread started to address PCNA issues. The Champion and Shiraaz subject should stay on track.
Nice you provided the PCNA contact info. I'd get an address and phone # too and mail Klaus Zellmer CEO of PCNA in Atlanta directly. Good luck getting his email.
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...r?OpenDocument
Nice you provided the PCNA contact info. I'd get an address and phone # too and mail Klaus Zellmer CEO of PCNA in Atlanta directly. Good luck getting his email.
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...r?OpenDocument
09-19-2018, 09:42 AM
#11
This is becoming like my kids little league and everyone should get a trophy. I’ve never left a deposit on any car purchase in my life not even GT cars, and that process is flawed. Also would never buy a car through a broker because the 3rd has to get paid ....it’s a car not a real estate investment. Guys these are cars that cost more than most people homes ave Joe will laugh at you.......don’t trust people with your cash, and you have nothing in return except your car is coming. The issue here is with the dealership not Porsche who sells the cars to the dealer. It’s a sad mess, but hold the dealer accountable for racking up 2.5M in deposits with no accountability. If people are so disgusted don’t by the cars protest occurs with your pocket book ........gee wiz
09-19-2018, 09:57 AM
#12
Rennlist Member
Agree......these GT cars are nice for the track and some street but not worth this kind of hype....they are a toy to get excited about for a while.....until the next new one comes along.....
09-19-2018, 11:30 AM
#14
Drifting
How the hell does someone buy a GT car and NOT have to put a deposit down? What, you call up your dealer and say I want a new GT3RS allocation, here's my Porsche build code and they go, "Sure thing, you got it!" I call BS on that. They're gonna order you a car to your specs without a deposit? At MSRP? Right. Even with an ADM, I doubt the people who say they NEVER have put a deposit down on ANY car.
09-19-2018, 11:48 AM
#15
How the hell does someone buy a GT car and NOT have to put a deposit down? What, you call up your dealer and say I want a new GT3RS allocation, here's my Porsche build code and they go, "Sure thing, you got it!" I call BS on that. They're gonna order you a car to your specs without a deposit? At MSRP? Right. Even with an ADM, I doubt the people who say they NEVER have put a deposit down on ANY car.