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Old 06-16-2018, 02:14 PM
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Hello, new to this forum. Currently own a 991.2 GT3 and looking to add a 993. Been talking to a few people, but wanted some more opinions. Been looking at both C2S and Turbos, but not sure which one makes sense to buy! I will use it for occasional weekend driving or to run to the store, but won't be tracking or DD. At first, I was looking at C2S because I wanted a wide body and living in the Phoenix area, don't have a need for 4wd. But then I started seeing the prices of nice copies (100-150k) and started to think I should look at turbos if I'm spending that much money. Thoughts? What should I be looking for? If I go the C2S route, I have narrowed it to around 5-6 pristine copies out there. All 1998 models. Are these cars really trading for the asking price? Heck, maybe I should wait a year or two for the prices to come back out of the stratosphere!
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Turbo.

Prices won't be falling in a year or two.

Good luck
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Are you asking from a value/investment point of view or driving?

From a driving point, you'll have to drive them both. They are completely different, it's like asking should you get a 991 Turbo vs GT3. Both are great IMO!
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I definitely need to drive both before I make a decision. I am interested as much on the investment side as driving side. So both. Maybe more investment. As for pricing not going down, that's what I heard in real estate in 2006! haha
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Driving both is essential because they are so very different. I went through every model of th NA 993, except the cabriolet, never keeping any one more than two years. I finally purchased a turbo and have now owned it for 9 years. Every drive is special and exhilarating. If there was ever a car that caused one to think “Porsche, there is no substitute” it is the 993 twin turbo. Good luck with your search.
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Originally Posted by joejenie
As for pricing not going down, that's what I heard in real estate in 2006! haha
It's not 2006 anymore, and a 993 is not real estate

Further, if investment is a concern, cars in general should be avoided. However, I would suggest 1950s-1960s V12 engined Ferraris as a much better investment bet than a 993.
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I understand. When I say investment, I mean I don't want to lose half what I paid in the first year or two! Is there any data here that indicates what these cars are really trading at? I see prices all over the board which makes it tough.

Another question. Red interiors? Hard to sell? How about red exteriors? Stick with grays and black?
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Originally Posted by joejenie
I understand. When I say investment, I mean I don't want to lose half what I paid in the first year or two! Is there any data here that indicates what these cars are really trading at? I see prices all over the board which makes it tough.

Another question. Red interiors? Hard to sell? How about red exteriors? Stick with grays and black?
To be fair, no one knows. That said, the chances of losing half your money on a 993 purchase any time soon is highly unlikely.

As for red interiors, they are highly polarizing, which means from an investment standpoint it's less desirable and will be harder to sell down the line.

Instead of investment focus, the best idea is to find the nicest example you can find/afford and get a comprehensive PPI before you plunk down your cash.
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Both are a completely different driving experience. Steering is much heavier in the turbo due to drive going to the front wheels. C2S feels much lighter and more nimble but much lower in power. C2S is a momentum car. I would recommend buying a turbo then removing the front diff and torque tube. That way you get the best of both worlds. Alternately you can buy 993GT2..
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A C2 “narrow body” (mine doesn’t look so narrow to me) may be something to add to your list. A blast to drive and throw around, same power as the S of course and many more examples and years to choose from. You can find a superb example and low mileage for under $70,000 and I’m talking an almost new car. As far as taking a haircut it’s unlikely unless you buy some crazy 3,000 mile car at Bonhams. My indy just sold a 1996 C4 (not what you want but for reference) was GRed, 20,000 miles, one owner and as new in every respect for $80,000.
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Originally Posted by s14kev
Alternately you can buy 993GT2..
LOL. Or, for the price of a GT2 you can buy this AND a nice little house on Lake Como.

https://autokennel.com/1995-porsche-...arrera-3-8-rs/
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If you are looking for reliability and extremely long service life without major unexpected cost a C2 is an outstanding vehicle.
If the desire for power trumps the above concerns than a Turbo is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by s14kev
Steering is much heavier in the turbo due to drive going to the front wheels.
Everything you posted is true except I don't find this part to be an accurate statement. I find it barely noticeable if at all.

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Originally Posted by Jabberwocky


LOL. Or, for the price of a GT2 you can buy this AND a nice little house on Lake Como.

https://autokennel.com/1995-porsche-...arrera-3-8-rs/
Hey man. OP lists a 2018 GT3 AND 2019 GT3RS in his sig. He probably already owns multiple properties on Lake Como.

Originally Posted by Cemoto
Everything you posted is true except I don't find this part to be an accurate statement. I find it barely noticeable if at all.

Regards,

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I've tried mine with and without the front diff/torque tube. Currently running without. Front end overall feels light when driven hard. Not sure I can quantify how much but that is the most noticeable change.
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Originally Posted by s14kev
I would recommend buying a turbo then removing the front diff and torque tube. That way you get the best of both worlds.
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