Speedster - Calling All Cleaning Ladies
12-01-2017, 11:28 PM
#1
Three Wheelin'
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Speedster - Calling All Cleaning Ladies
Can we start gathering info on the incoming speedster.
Will it have the 4.0?
will it be a drop top 911r?
991 produced?
Will it have the 4.0?
will it be a drop top 911r?
991 produced?
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01-23-2020, 04:26 PM
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I took delivery of my Speedster with Heritage Pack a few days ago, some first impressions (my daily drive is a GT3 Touring, with a 991.2 GT3RS as backup)
Aesthetics
- overall build quality is excellent
- the cognac leather is softer than I expected, in fact, the CFB padding is quite different to the GT3RS, feeling more like the 18 ways on my GT3T, except for rake of course
- the heritage pack looks great in person. The combination of cognac leather, GT Silver, black leather, gold lettering, looks classy [to me]. I'm not usually a fan of gold highlights but it works in this case.
- the heritage shield looks cheap, like a color photocopy, trimmed and glued. It should be a real shield.
- the GT Silver paint is both lovely to look at and touch; feels silky smooth, and makes me think twice about the PPF booking.
- roof down looks awesome, roof up is less sexy, like a supermodel wearing an unflattering hat.
- the roof mechanism is an awkward dance.
Driving
- I'm observing the AP GT3 running in advice, ie under 5000rpm for the first 500km. I'm also doing very few kms before PPF so very little seat time, but you asked :grin:
- the gearbox is very slick and smooth, like its been teflon coated. By comparison, my GT3T box somehow feels chunkier, more solid, more motor sports, more masculine. The speedster feels more feminine [if that makes sense].
- the clutch also feels lighter and smoother.
- the electronic RPM matching seems upgraded to near perfection [I wish I could turn it off entirely, but that's a different discussion]. If you turn on the Auto Blip, the impression is perfect, silky smooth gear changes. Again, more feminine.
- the steering feels lighter
- the suspension is a touch softer in ride and very quiet, although very flat through the corners.
- rear vision is fine with the roof down; in fact I havent had the roof up since leaving the dealership.
- noise; well, if you want some drama ala ferrari or maserati roadsters, look elsewhere. The exhaust [to 5000rpm] is quiet, in fact, with the roof down and the "loud" button active, the speedster sounds somewhat whirring, with no bass whatsoever.
- road noise is very refined. I have Michelins on the Speedster and GT3T and Dunlops on the RS.
- the Speedster feels much smaller and more intimate than both the GT3T and GT3RS even with the roof down.
Overall
- I'll start with cars we know well:
- The GT3RS to me is like an iron man suit. The engineering is immediate. The front track, suspension, PDK-S, poise and balance are very impressive. And the mechanical noise. It leaves no doubt about its purpose.
- The GT3T is a wolf in disguise. Cruise lightly and people generally dont notice you pass unless they are fans. I take it shopping regularly. But its still a GT3, with all the noise, both inside and out.
- The Speedster. Well, to me it feels like a dancer, a ballerina maybe. Very feminine in HP guise. Quiet, soft, gentle even. I need to complete the running in process and get nicely slapped perhaps.
Aesthetics
- overall build quality is excellent
- the cognac leather is softer than I expected, in fact, the CFB padding is quite different to the GT3RS, feeling more like the 18 ways on my GT3T, except for rake of course
- the heritage pack looks great in person. The combination of cognac leather, GT Silver, black leather, gold lettering, looks classy [to me]. I'm not usually a fan of gold highlights but it works in this case.
- the heritage shield looks cheap, like a color photocopy, trimmed and glued. It should be a real shield.
- the GT Silver paint is both lovely to look at and touch; feels silky smooth, and makes me think twice about the PPF booking.
- roof down looks awesome, roof up is less sexy, like a supermodel wearing an unflattering hat.
- the roof mechanism is an awkward dance.
Driving
- I'm observing the AP GT3 running in advice, ie under 5000rpm for the first 500km. I'm also doing very few kms before PPF so very little seat time, but you asked :grin:
- the gearbox is very slick and smooth, like its been teflon coated. By comparison, my GT3T box somehow feels chunkier, more solid, more motor sports, more masculine. The speedster feels more feminine [if that makes sense].
- the clutch also feels lighter and smoother.
- the electronic RPM matching seems upgraded to near perfection [I wish I could turn it off entirely, but that's a different discussion]. If you turn on the Auto Blip, the impression is perfect, silky smooth gear changes. Again, more feminine.
- the steering feels lighter
- the suspension is a touch softer in ride and very quiet, although very flat through the corners.
- rear vision is fine with the roof down; in fact I havent had the roof up since leaving the dealership.
- noise; well, if you want some drama ala ferrari or maserati roadsters, look elsewhere. The exhaust [to 5000rpm] is quiet, in fact, with the roof down and the "loud" button active, the speedster sounds somewhat whirring, with no bass whatsoever.
- road noise is very refined. I have Michelins on the Speedster and GT3T and Dunlops on the RS.
- the Speedster feels much smaller and more intimate than both the GT3T and GT3RS even with the roof down.
Overall
- I'll start with cars we know well:
- The GT3RS to me is like an iron man suit. The engineering is immediate. The front track, suspension, PDK-S, poise and balance are very impressive. And the mechanical noise. It leaves no doubt about its purpose.
- The GT3T is a wolf in disguise. Cruise lightly and people generally dont notice you pass unless they are fans. I take it shopping regularly. But its still a GT3, with all the noise, both inside and out.
- The Speedster. Well, to me it feels like a dancer, a ballerina maybe. Very feminine in HP guise. Quiet, soft, gentle even. I need to complete the running in process and get nicely slapped perhaps.
12-02-2017, 12:13 AM
#2
Been a few months since I heard this from a dealer management source who said it with apparent sincere confidence as though he’d already been told:
991 Speedster will be, essentially, a 911 R convertible (new 4.0 GT3 engine, manual, same chassis), and only 356 of them will be made, numbered of course. So it will be even more rare and hard to get than the R.
Seems plausible. But it would go against grain of past Speedsters that weren’t real GT cars.
991 Speedster will be, essentially, a 911 R convertible (new 4.0 GT3 engine, manual, same chassis), and only 356 of them will be made, numbered of course. So it will be even more rare and hard to get than the R.
Seems plausible. But it would go against grain of past Speedsters that weren’t real GT cars.
12-02-2017, 08:30 PM
#3
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Been a few months since I heard this from a dealer management source who said it with apparent sincere confidence as though he’d already been told:
991 Speedster will be, essentially, a 911 R convertible (new 4.0 GT3 engine, manual, same chassis), and only 356 of them will be made, numbered of course. So it will be even more rare and hard to get than the R.
Seems plausible. But it would go against grain of past Speedsters that weren’t real GT cars.
991 Speedster will be, essentially, a 911 R convertible (new 4.0 GT3 engine, manual, same chassis), and only 356 of them will be made, numbered of course. So it will be even more rare and hard to get than the R.
Seems plausible. But it would go against grain of past Speedsters that weren’t real GT cars.
Are there fewer than 356 918 VIPS's still in the program? Because they can't shaft any of those guys...
12-02-2017, 09:38 PM
#4
12-02-2017, 11:01 PM
#5
Let the VIPs dual to the death for those speedster cars. haha
12-03-2017, 05:37 AM
#6
Slightly OT, but I am reading news about the 718 Spyder having the 4.0 GT3 engine. Makes a Speedster with that engine more likely too, though a tuned version of the 3.0T might suit the car better. However, how cool would a manual Spyder with 'that' engine be!
12-03-2017, 06:42 AM
#7
FWIW, the rule is that (US) VIP prog cars are allocated in priority of the order date of your 918.
So, if less cars than 918 owners, the earliest adopters get first refusal.
No idea if this will apply to speedsters - seems unlikely so few.
So, if less cars than 918 owners, the earliest adopters get first refusal.
No idea if this will apply to speedsters - seems unlikely so few.
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12-03-2017, 08:59 AM
#8
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
I would love a speedster. Hearing that engine with the top down would be glorious.
12-03-2017, 01:01 PM
#9
Been a few months since I heard this from a dealer management source who said it with apparent sincere confidence as though he’d already been told:
991 Speedster will be, essentially, a 911 R convertible (new 4.0 GT3 engine, manual, same chassis), and only 356 of them will be made, numbered of course. So it will be even more rare and hard to get than the R.
Seems plausible. But it would go against grain of past Speedsters that weren’t real GT cars.
991 Speedster will be, essentially, a 911 R convertible (new 4.0 GT3 engine, manual, same chassis), and only 356 of them will be made, numbered of course. So it will be even more rare and hard to get than the R.
Seems plausible. But it would go against grain of past Speedsters that weren’t real GT cars.
12-03-2017, 02:20 PM
#10
Three Wheelin'
The 997.2 Speedster was a product of Exclusive not Motorsport so this would be, as others have said, a major shift in emphasis if the Speedster was a GT based effort. Perhaps the idea is to recall the 4 cam Carrera Speedster? The numbers will be very few and the price well into the $200s if so.
12-03-2017, 02:22 PM
#11
Race Director
Rumor some one posted was like 1600 cars. After the 918 guys it lives a couple for the bigger deals for their best Customers. Some one mentioned pricing in mid-$200,000s
I wish they would make like 5000.
I wish they would make like 5000.
12-03-2017, 05:05 PM
#13
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I'm not sure they will do a 4.0 in the boxster spyder if they do a 4.0 in the speedster. 4.0 with manual in the speedster - now we're talking. 997.2 speedster was $205k, I can see this one around $300k. reports are something over 1,000 units instead of 356 like the last one. Hopefully more than 2 standard colors this time
12-03-2017, 05:22 PM
#15
This has me thinking if Porsche is going do any other 991.2 special variants, pretty cool stuff albeit unobtainable for most. My guess though is PAG shifting focus towards 992.