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Dealer Inventory GT2 RS Wiessach Allocation
06-16-2018, 08:37 AM
#31
Year: 2018
Make: Porsche
Model: 911
Mileage (numbers only please): 0
Color: any
Price (no $ sign please): $145000
Private or Dealer Listing: Dealer Listing
Location (Region): SouthEast
Body Style: Coupe
Transmission Type: PDK
2 or 4 Wheel Drive?: 2 Wheel Drive
Engine Type: Fuel Injection
Stereo System: AM-FM CD
Anyone here tried to buy a SS “hot” sport watch at MSRP (Daytona, Skydweller, Hulk, Kermit, etc)?
It’s analogous IMO. “Pre owned” examples of these are routinely selling double digit % over MSRP IF you can find one. And forget getting a new one if you aren’t on “the list”. And be prepared to wait. I waited almost 6 months for my blue dial Skydweller as a “good repeat customer”.
Lots of free cash chasing a limited number of shiny objects is the free market in action here.
I don’t have that level of wealth and I don’t think it’s wise for Porsche marketing toward the “aspirational” consumer, but if I had something for sale that someone offered me more than my ask in cash, I would be lying to say I would turn it down for the sake of “fairness” to others. When I get upset that I can’t order a GT car at MSRP, I try to think of it that way.
It’s analogous IMO. “Pre owned” examples of these are routinely selling double digit % over MSRP IF you can find one. And forget getting a new one if you aren’t on “the list”. And be prepared to wait. I waited almost 6 months for my blue dial Skydweller as a “good repeat customer”.
Lots of free cash chasing a limited number of shiny objects is the free market in action here.
I don’t have that level of wealth and I don’t think it’s wise for Porsche marketing toward the “aspirational” consumer, but if I had something for sale that someone offered me more than my ask in cash, I would be lying to say I would turn it down for the sake of “fairness” to others. When I get upset that I can’t order a GT car at MSRP, I try to think of it that way.
06-16-2018, 08:44 AM
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Very good analogy. And the SS watch prices always crack me up a little, because I'm a huge fan of SS watches, but they are admittedly the cheapest version that is getting a markup added to them. They are popular because they are the least expensive and it drives the price up. Fascinating economics.
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06-16-2018, 09:02 AM
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This thread cracks me up. This isn't Overton's issue. This is Porsche's issue. Porsche should put in place a policy more like Ferrari and Ford with the GT.
You buy it, you can't flip it for a year. And the manufacture has first right of refusal to buy it back. End of story.
By the way, if you want to use an analogy, use the one about an IPO and restricted stock. Restricted stock has to be held for a period of time because the recipient gets it for a substantial discount.
You buy it, you can't flip it for a year. And the manufacture has first right of refusal to buy it back. End of story.
By the way, if you want to use an analogy, use the one about an IPO and restricted stock. Restricted stock has to be held for a period of time because the recipient gets it for a substantial discount.
06-16-2018, 09:43 AM
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Personally I agree with this ^^^
And I do find it ironic that Rennlist with its red tendencies generally also finds unfettered market forces being applied to the GT car market to be offensive. "Free market unless it doesn't benefit me in which case I want controls."
And I do find it ironic that Rennlist with its red tendencies generally also finds unfettered market forces being applied to the GT car market to be offensive. "Free market unless it doesn't benefit me in which case I want controls."
06-16-2018, 10:22 AM
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This thread cracks me up. This isn't Overton's issue. This is Porsche's issue. Porsche should put in place a policy more like Ferrari and Ford with the GT.
You buy it, you can't flip it for a year. And the manufacture has first right of refusal to buy it back. End of story.
By the way, if you want to use an analogy, use the one about an IPO and restricted stock. Restricted stock has to be held for a period of time because the recipient gets it for a substantial discount.
You buy it, you can't flip it for a year. And the manufacture has first right of refusal to buy it back. End of story.
By the way, if you want to use an analogy, use the one about an IPO and restricted stock. Restricted stock has to be held for a period of time because the recipient gets it for a substantial discount.
06-16-2018, 11:12 AM
#37
Very good analogy. And the SS watch prices always crack me up a little, because I'm a huge fan of SS watches, but they are admittedly the cheapest version that is getting a markup added to them. They are popular because they are the least expensive and it drives the price up. Fascinating economics.
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I love my Explorer II because it’s rugged, easy to read with good lume and I never fret over scratching it. I wear it in any conditions and it’s still +/- 1-2 seconds/month. Of course, I’ve had it so long it was purchased new at a nice discount from MSRP. Same with my Patek 5146. Those were the days way back in 2015...
There, another free bump!
06-16-2018, 01:22 PM
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Yes sir, it is.
We've got two offers on it so far. First person to bring cash to the table gets it.
And also thanks for the support guys. I find this forum to be full of a lot of great people, clients/customers, with a few outliers who just like to complain about what the prices are. I'm happy to answer questions, but I won't stand around while these few outliers trash me because they have no sense of how the market works.
We've got two offers on it so far. First person to bring cash to the table gets it.
And also thanks for the support guys. I find this forum to be full of a lot of great people, clients/customers, with a few outliers who just like to complain about what the prices are. I'm happy to answer questions, but I won't stand around while these few outliers trash me because they have no sense of how the market works.
06-16-2018, 11:14 PM
#42
I actually believe this is quite a fair deal and I do wish I could write a check for it. I also appreciate capitalism and the forthright effort to clearly advertise it. Cheers to the buyer.
06-17-2018, 12:31 AM
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This thread cracks me up. This isn't Overton's issue. This is Porsche's issue. Porsche should put in place a policy more like Ferrari and Ford with the GT.
You buy it, you can't flip it for a year. And the manufacture has first right of refusal to buy it back. End of story.
By the way, if you want to use an analogy, use the one about an IPO and restricted stock. Restricted stock has to be held for a period of time because the recipient gets it for a substantial discount.
You buy it, you can't flip it for a year. And the manufacture has first right of refusal to buy it back. End of story.
By the way, if you want to use an analogy, use the one about an IPO and restricted stock. Restricted stock has to be held for a period of time because the recipient gets it for a substantial discount.
06-17-2018, 09:03 PM
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I dont understand how people say this is f'ed up (basically knocking capitalism). Its a free country - make money and spend it how you see fit. Supply and demand at its finest. To be honest, Overton seems to be very upfront and honest - disclosing more than they have to or should have to. If you dont like it / the price of admission - then go punch a pillow. Commenting or trashing their ad is not only rude - it not allowed in FS threads.
GLWS and another free bump.
