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2016 CAYMAN GT4 AVAILABLE SOLD
07-27-2015, 09:37 PM
#16
Year: 2016
Make: Porsche
Model: Cayman
Mileage (numbers only please): 20
Color: White
Price (no $ sign please): $104425
Private or Dealer Listing: Dealer Listing
Location (Region): Texas
Body Style: Coupe
Transmission Type: Manual - 6 speed
2 or 4 Wheel Drive?: 2 Wheel Drive
Engine Type: Fuel Injection
Stereo System: AM Radio
07-27-2015, 09:41 PM
#17
Whoa, sorry fellas. Didn't mean to start a flame war.
Is the dealer allowed to price gouge? Absolutely. Is a guy allowed to sell bottled water for $100 per after a hurricane disrupts potable water in the area? Sure. But both are unfair practices that speak to character.
MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. A car sold at that price not only includes a healthy profit for any dealer, but is the price the maker suggest it be sold at fair market value. The key word there is fair. Any more and it's unfair value.
I'm sure if you were having a kidney stone, at that moment of intense pain, the doctor could charge you $20,000 for that $10 shot of morphine and you would pay it to get rid of that pain. Does that make him a good business man just reflecting the market and good capitalism?
There is a reason car dealers are burdened with a low reputation, one reason is because some engage in price gouging. Some, like myself, frown on that business practice, because it's unfair to the buyer.
And guess what, we can all post here all we want. Telling others to SFTU will not work, so the opinions will fly, especially when the subject is price gouging by a car dealer. Opinions on price are no poorer etiquette than price gouging.
Is the dealer allowed to price gouge? Absolutely. Is a guy allowed to sell bottled water for $100 per after a hurricane disrupts potable water in the area? Sure. But both are unfair practices that speak to character.
MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. A car sold at that price not only includes a healthy profit for any dealer, but is the price the maker suggest it be sold at fair market value. The key word there is fair. Any more and it's unfair value.
I'm sure if you were having a kidney stone, at that moment of intense pain, the doctor could charge you $20,000 for that $10 shot of morphine and you would pay it to get rid of that pain. Does that make him a good business man just reflecting the market and good capitalism?
There is a reason car dealers are burdened with a low reputation, one reason is because some engage in price gouging. Some, like myself, frown on that business practice, because it's unfair to the buyer.
And guess what, we can all post here all we want. Telling others to SFTU will not work, so the opinions will fly, especially when the subject is price gouging by a car dealer. Opinions on price are no poorer etiquette than price gouging.
07-27-2015, 09:42 PM
#18
Rennlist Member
Why do you even care? Are you the guy selling the car? Whether I'm a buyer or not is none of your business. The guy clearly stated he wants $10k above price. what did not set right with me was you telling someone to stfu...when all he stated was his opinion...not very cool
07-27-2015, 09:47 PM
#19
Burning Brakes
^this. i'm sure they had a big list of people who wanted to get an allocation. would be nice if they sorted out one of those people.
that said, i'm somewhat glad to see this because when i realized i wasn't going to get on a list for a GT4 at MSRP and i started doing the math on what a dealer might charge for one, i figured it would be around this price or higher. that made me focus on looking for a 997.2 GT3 instead and have been enjoying mine since March!
that said, i'm somewhat glad to see this because when i realized i wasn't going to get on a list for a GT4 at MSRP and i started doing the math on what a dealer might charge for one, i figured it would be around this price or higher. that made me focus on looking for a 997.2 GT3 instead and have been enjoying mine since March!
07-27-2015, 09:52 PM
#20
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The man can is entitled to ask whatever he wants for it. Ultimately, it is worth whatever the market will bear. Let us know what it goes for. From one businessman to another, GLWS. Haters, stfu.
07-27-2015, 09:55 PM
#21
Instructor
07-27-2015, 10:10 PM
#23
Rennlist Member
No one's hating. If the guy selling the car was a private seller than hey so be it...it's his car. That is not the case...he is a dealer trying to price gouge...something some mfr's do not agree with. In the end he can do whatever he wants but it doesn't say much for the industry.
07-27-2015, 10:17 PM
#24
Platinum Dealership
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We would and will sir.. But, this is an open market forum. I could save some grief from some posters and not even offer it up at all here.. Then whom would I be doing the disservice? Look guys, I'm simply the messenger that brings these amazing machines to this particular forum. I know some of you don't care for dealers here, but from the few that I see that actually do offer their specialty Inventory, we set an asking price and then look forward to offers. I can honestly state that we don't always get asking price on most of our listings, but there has to be a starting point.. As for asking a premium on a car that most want, but were not able to procure, ; I don't see it as "unreasonable." It's always "seems to be" the guys that have no intention to buy for whatever reason that have their opinions, however, I can honestly respect it. Thanks for the support from all of the others!
07-27-2015, 10:19 PM
#25
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No one's hating. If the guy selling the car was a private seller than hey so be it...it's his car. That is not the case...he is a dealer trying to price gouge...something some mfr's do not agree with. In the end he can do whatever he wants but it doesn't say much for the industry.
07-27-2015, 10:23 PM
#26
Rennlist Member
Whoa, sorry fellas. Didn't mean to start a flame war.
Is the dealer allowed to price gouge? Absolutely. Is a guy allowed to sell bottled water for $100 per after a hurricane disrupts potable water in the area? Sure. But both are unfair practices that speak to character.
MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. A car sold at that price not only includes a healthy profit for any dealer, but is the price the maker suggest it be sold at fair market value. The key word there is fair. Any more and it's unfair value.
I'm sure if you were having a kidney stone, at that moment of intense pain, the doctor could charge you $20,000 for that $10 shot of morphine and you would pay it to get rid of that pain. Does that make him a good business man just reflecting the market and good capitalism?
There is a reason car dealers are burdened with a low reputation, one reason is because some engage in price gouging. Some, like myself, frown on that business practice, because it's unfair to the buyer.
And guess what, we can all post here all we want. Telling others to SFTU will not work, so the opinions will fly, especially when the subject is price gouging by a car dealer. Opinions on price are no poorer etiquette than price gouging.
Is the dealer allowed to price gouge? Absolutely. Is a guy allowed to sell bottled water for $100 per after a hurricane disrupts potable water in the area? Sure. But both are unfair practices that speak to character.
MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. A car sold at that price not only includes a healthy profit for any dealer, but is the price the maker suggest it be sold at fair market value. The key word there is fair. Any more and it's unfair value.
I'm sure if you were having a kidney stone, at that moment of intense pain, the doctor could charge you $20,000 for that $10 shot of morphine and you would pay it to get rid of that pain. Does that make him a good business man just reflecting the market and good capitalism?
There is a reason car dealers are burdened with a low reputation, one reason is because some engage in price gouging. Some, like myself, frown on that business practice, because it's unfair to the buyer.
And guess what, we can all post here all we want. Telling others to SFTU will not work, so the opinions will fly, especially when the subject is price gouging by a car dealer. Opinions on price are no poorer etiquette than price gouging.
Small point
I'd imagine this car is long gone if all the forum hype relates to dollars spent
07-27-2015, 10:24 PM
#27
Race Car
Whoa, sorry fellas. Didn't mean to start a flame war.
Is the dealer allowed to price gouge? Absolutely. Is a guy allowed to sell bottled water for $100 per after a hurricane disrupts potable water in the area? Sure. But both are unfair practices that speak to character.
MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. A car sold at that price not only includes a healthy profit for any dealer, but is the price the maker suggest it be sold at fair market value. The key word there is fair. Any more and it's unfair value.
I'm sure if you were having a kidney stone, at that moment of intense pain, the doctor could charge you $20,000 for that $10 shot of morphine and you would pay it to get rid of that pain. Does that make him a good business man just reflecting the market and good capitalism?
There is a reason car dealers are burdened with a low reputation, one reason is because some engage in price gouging. Some, like myself, frown on that business practice, because it's unfair to the buyer.
And guess what, we can all post here all we want. Telling others to SFTU will not work, so the opinions will fly, especially when the subject is price gouging by a car dealer. Opinions on price are no poorer etiquette than price gouging.
Is the dealer allowed to price gouge? Absolutely. Is a guy allowed to sell bottled water for $100 per after a hurricane disrupts potable water in the area? Sure. But both are unfair practices that speak to character.
MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. A car sold at that price not only includes a healthy profit for any dealer, but is the price the maker suggest it be sold at fair market value. The key word there is fair. Any more and it's unfair value.
I'm sure if you were having a kidney stone, at that moment of intense pain, the doctor could charge you $20,000 for that $10 shot of morphine and you would pay it to get rid of that pain. Does that make him a good business man just reflecting the market and good capitalism?
There is a reason car dealers are burdened with a low reputation, one reason is because some engage in price gouging. Some, like myself, frown on that business practice, because it's unfair to the buyer.
And guess what, we can all post here all we want. Telling others to SFTU will not work, so the opinions will fly, especially when the subject is price gouging by a car dealer. Opinions on price are no poorer etiquette than price gouging.
07-27-2015, 10:25 PM
#28
John, was the car titled to the original owner or did he not take title to the car?
I'm not a big fan of charging over MSRP but at least this is better than what the CA dealerships are trying to charge. Maybe because I'm buying a GT4 with a small premium I'm biased, but this is within reason in terms of pricing. $20k+ over MSRP....hell no. Good luck on the sale John and please don't stop posting your inventory on here.
I'm not a big fan of charging over MSRP but at least this is better than what the CA dealerships are trying to charge. Maybe because I'm buying a GT4 with a small premium I'm biased, but this is within reason in terms of pricing. $20k+ over MSRP....hell no. Good luck on the sale John and please don't stop posting your inventory on here.
07-27-2015, 10:30 PM
#29
It is illegal because it is amoral.
07-27-2015, 10:36 PM
#30
Race Car
From personal experience, I was in the market for a car. I love forums to get some great info and intel. After looking for months and deciding what I wanted to get I finally purchased my current car.
I specifically chose not to give you guys the business for the practice you have on this forum of charging (or should I say asking) exorbitant retails.
You are right. It is capitalism, you are a business, you can do whatever you want. For me it specifically changed my mind and I chose to decide with my wallet. I took my money elsewhere.
So for me you would have been better off not showing all these over MSRP deals you have. I am quite confident I am not the only one in this boat, but if I am who cares.