Apres polish!!!!
This is what I did:
Cleaned
Zymol HD cleaner (a light polishing compound)
Zymol Concours (hand applied)
I love black cars....when they belong to someone else!

AMEN to that!

Car looks fantastic Ginch, now comes the tough part: driving with all that leftover winter crap on the road!
Learning to detail a car is a lot of fun and can become addictive.
I am new to the 993. I just recently sold my 1986 911 and picked up a 1996 C4S.
Polishing paint is not that hard to learn and the cost of paying for one professional detailing will probably cover the necessary equipment.
This is my 1986 taken about a 18 months ago. The car was my year round daily driver and had 149,000 at the time of the photo.
I did this at home:
I think I'll start with the Hummer first as my guinea pig before trying it on the Porsche. I would love to have that finish in your photo.
Rule number one - use the least aggressive polish/product first. Only move up if that does not get the job done.
I had been a committed hand polish/wax kind of guy. But trying to get perfect paint by hand is back breaking work and I could never get it looking as good as I wanted. I was afraid of using a machine. I now wonder why I waited so long to try one.
The key is getting a "dual action" polisher. The DA is much more user friendly and idiot proof than a "rotary" machine. The most common machines I have seen are from Porter Cable, Meguiars, Flex, & Griots. I have a Flex XC 3401.
That photo was taken after the first time I detailed the car using a machine to polish. It had 24 years of built up swirls in the paint so needed a fairly aggressive polish.
That was done with these steps:
- Wash
- Clay bar
- First polish - Meguiars M105 on a white Lake Country foam pad
- Second polish - Mequiars M205 on a black Lake Country foam pad
- Protect/Sealant - Blackfire Wet Diamond
Menzerna makes some excellent polishes and I really like their Menzerna Micro Polish PO85rd.
There is a great site called "truth in detailing" where you can find lots of information. I am no great detailing expert and have only been at it for about two or three years.
There is great satisfaction in learning to do it yourself. Although there is the danger of getting addicted to having perfect paint. You will then spend countless hours chasing small marks that your family and friends will never notice, even when you attempt to point them out. They will think you are nuts.
My "new" car - 1996 C4S

Same house - different car (this is the '96 C4S - above I posted the now gone '86 911)

A few more:



I'm not sure what happened here. I must have moved to blur the reflection.

Last edited by Jeff U; Apr 24, 2011 at 12:25 AM.
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The final sealing and waxing will only reflect what you have done in previous steps...both good and bad. It is alot of WORK, but not difficult if you read and take your time to do it all right.
So gratifying when finally finish...usually about 11:34 pm on Sunday night!
With the caveat I am no expert but I have learned a lot by trial and error, here is what I know (or at least convinced myself that my opinion and "fact" are one and the same):
RULE NUMBER # 1 (never violate) - always start with the least aggressive polish/pad combination that you think will get the job done. Only move up if you need to.
Polishers:
Random Orbital, dual action - the thing kind of shakes and moves the pad in a random pattern which pretty much eliminates the hologram problem. No forced rotation. Much less cutting power than the rotary. As a newbie look online for a Porter Cable, Griots, or Meguairs. Expect to spend $150 or so. BTW - the ones sold in most auto parts stores are junk.
Mine, the Flex XC 3401 - has a little of both. It has force rotation of the rotary but max forced rotation is only 480 RPM. Has less polishing power than a rotary but more than the Random Orbital yet is still fairly idiot proof. Expect to pay near $300.
I picked the Flex and have been happy with it. I have never used another machine so I have no comparisons to make.
Meguiars: You'll see a great deal about M105 & M205. These are excellent polishes but have one difference from most others, they are non-diminishing. The abrasive particles are tough and do not break down. They maintain their cutting power as long as you polish. M105 is very aggressive while M205 is a finishing polish. They are designed to use M105 to remove your defects and M205 provides the final pop. M105 has a little steeper learning curve and it produces quite a bit of dust.
- These two Menzerna polishes have become my personal favorites.
Regardless of maker's polish you use, once you have removed any big defects the finishing polish will be all you need. So if you are a home DIY, don’t buy a big bottle of the more aggressive polish.
- Gold - least aggressive, soft
- Red
- Black
- Green
- White
- Orange
- Yellow
- Purple - most aggressive, stiff
Some have dimples, some are flat, there are lots of minor differences that different users will swear by. I use black and green pads the most. The most aggressive pad I own is white. For the above photos I used Menzerna PO85rd with a black pad.
There is a special place in hell for anyone that takes a 993 to a car wash…
Continue to prepare the paint by claying, if needed. You can check if you need to clay by putting your hand in a plastic bag and then gently rub the surface of the paint. If it feels rough, clay the car. If you have never done this you will not believe how smooth the paint will become. It is just super cool… Use LOTS of lubricant.
Many people will tape off window trim, joints, badges, etc… with blue painters tape. I once polished my windshield with a special glass compound and it made LOTS of dust. I wish I had taped all the joints and other openings that were anywhere near the windshield. BTW - glass is very hard and the standard paint polishes do nothing.
Polish - remember rule #1
Here’s what I do:
- Put a tiny spritz of water on my pad. I mean tiny
- Apply polish to pad, four to six dots (each half size of a dime) of polish
- Gently use the polisher to spread the polish on the paint before turning it on
- Turn on polisher
- Polish until you see the polish break down (assuming Merzerna use)
- Wipe off with micro fiber cloth (clean, soft, with lots of nap)
- Check the surface
- Repeat as needed
I have tried lots of waxes and sealants. Talk about mind numbing… Here's what I found, I like one wax and one sealant.
If you are a pure wax guy, get P21s Carnauba. Very deep shine, easy to put on, but last only a short time.
If you like sealants, try Blackfire Wet Diamond. Easy to put on, seems to last and will give you the slickest, smoothest finish you can believe.
Blackfire Wet Diamond (my favorite) - I apply it with a red pad at a very slow setting on my Flex. It is some type of oil based product and a tiny amount spreads a long way. I start at one corner of the car and by the time I have applied the whole car, the first section is ready to be hand wiped off with another clean, soft, thick nap micro fiber cloth.
Cars with clear coats will generally not transfer color to the pad. However, some clear coats are tinted with the underlying paint color, not really clear clear coats. So you may get a little blush of the color on the pads.
Have a couple of each pad you plan to use so the pad stays fairly clean. I just did my C4S and used two black pads to do the car. Half way through I got out a new pad.
On a 911, tape the seal around the sunroof. Trust me on this one. It's easy to hit the seal and have the pad pull the seal loose. Did you know there is a little white plastic cord type thing under there? No, I wish I was unaware of that as well…
Blackfire Wet Diamond is just about impossible to remove from pads. It is not water based and it laughs at soap or other detergents. I have one red pad set aside that I only use with BFWD.
I buy just about everything online.
Last edited by Jeff U; Apr 23, 2011 at 10:33 PM. Reason: typo
With the caveat I am no expert but I have learned a lot by trial and error, here is what I know (or at least convinced myself that my opinion and "fact" are one and the same):
RULE NUMBER # 1 (never violate) - always start with the least aggressive polish/pad combination that you think will get the job done. Only move up if you need to.
Polishers:
Random Orbital, dual action - the thing kind of shakes and moves the pad in a random pattern which pretty much eliminates the hologram problem. No forced rotation. Much less cutting power than the rotary. As a newbie look online for a Porter Cable, Griots, or Meguairs. Expect to spend $150 or so. BTW - the ones sold in most auto parts stores are junk.
Mine, the Flex XC 3401 - has a little of both. It has force rotation of the rotary but max forced rotation is only 480 RPM. Has less polishing power than a rotary but more than the Random Orbital yet is still fairly idiot proof. Expect to pay near $300.
I picked the Flex and have been happy with it. I have never used another machine so I have no comparisons to make.
Meguiars: You'll see a great deal about M105 & M205. These are excellent polishes but have one difference from most others, they are non-diminishing. The abrasive particles are tough and do not break down. They maintain their cutting power as long as you polish. M105 is very aggressive while M205 is a finishing polish. They are designed to use M105 to remove your defects and M205 provides the final pop. M105 has a little steeper learning curve and it produces quite a bit of dust.
- These two Menzerna polishes have become my personal favorites.
Regardless of maker's polish you use, once you have removed any big defects the finishing polish will be all you need. So if you are a home DIY, dont buy a big bottle of the more aggressive polish.
- Gold - least aggressive, soft
- Red
- Black
- Green
- White
- Orange
- Yellow
- Purple - most aggressive, stiff
Some have dimples, some are flat, there are lots of minor differences that different users will swear by. I use black and green pads the most. The most aggressive pad I own is white. For the above photos I used Menzerna PO85rd with a black pad.
There is a special place in hell for anyone that takes a 993 to a car wash
Continue to prepare the paint by claying, if needed. You can check if you need to clay by putting your hand in a plastic bag and then gently rub the surface of the paint. If it feels rough, clay the car. If you have never done this you will not believe how smooth the paint will become. It is just super cool Use LOTS of lubricant.
Many people will tape off window trim, joints, badges, etc with blue painters tape. I once polished my windshield with a special glass compound and it made LOTS of dust. I wish I had taped all the joints and other openings that were anywhere near the windshield. BTW - glass is very hard and the standard paint polishes do nothing.
Polish - remember rule #1
Heres what I do:
- Put a tiny spritz of water on my pad. I mean tiny
- Apply polish to pad, four to six dots (each half size of a dime) of polish
- Gently use the polisher to spread the polish on the paint before turning it on
- Turn on polisher
- Polish until you see the polish break down (assuming Merzerna use)
- Wipe off with micro fiber cloth (clean, soft, with lots of nap)
- Check the surface
- Repeat as needed
I have tried lots of waxes and sealants. Talk about mind numbing Here's what I found, I like one wax and one sealant.
If you are a pure wax guy, get P21s Carnauba. Very deep shine, easy to put on, but last only a short time.
If you like sealants, try Blackfire Wet Diamond. Easy to put on, seems to last and will give you the slickest, smoothest finish you can believe.
Blackfire Wet Diamond (my favorite) - I apply it with a red pad at a very slow setting on my Flex. It is some type of oil based product and a tiny amount spreads a long way. I start at one corner of the car and by the time I have applied the whole car, the first section is ready to be hand wiped off with another clean, soft, thick nap micro fiber cloth.
Cars with clear coats will generally not transfer color to the pad. However, some clear coats are tinted with the underlying paint color, not really clear clear coats. So you may get a little blush of the color on the pads.
Have a couple of each pad you plan to use so the pad stays fairly clean. I just did my C4S and used two black pads to do the car. Half way through I got out a new pad.
On a 911, tape the seal around the sunroof. Trust me on this one. It's easy to hit the seal and have the pad pull the seal loose. Did you know there is a little white plastic cord type thing under there? No, I wish I was unaware of that as well
Blackfire Wet Diamond is just about impossible to remove from pads. It is not water based and it laughs at soap or other detergents. I have one red pad set aside that I only use with BFWD.
I buy just about everything online.
One thing that drove me NUTS on my last detailing...the fuzzy seal that shows on the outside with the roof closed. It stays wet long after washing. Anything you do with polish or wax while it is wet will smear and make you go mad. Best to have your 993 really DRY before polishing. Will remove alot of frustration.
I feel like I have a much better understanding of the process and I think I will order the Porter Cable 7424XP unless you have feedback against?
I saw you recommended it and I am as rookie as you can get.
Thanks again



