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Does the Carrera T with carbon buckets have rear seat mounting points?
The title pretty much says it all. I know that the GT3s doesn't have rear seat mounting points. Does the Carrera T with carbon buckets have rear seat and belt mounting points?
Wouldn't the rear seats be (even more) useless with LWBs blocking them?
If possible, my plan is to add rear seats and replace the LWBs with 4-way or aftermarket folding seats. My daughter is almost 8 and I'd like to enjoy this car as a family of 3, but be ready for the teen years when she hates me and I want LWBs.
If possible, my plan is to add rear seats and replace the LWBs with 4-way or aftermarket folding seats. My daughter is almost 8 and I'd like to enjoy this car as a family of 3, but be ready for the teen years when she hates me and I want LWBs.
My daughter is 8 and absolutely loves riding in the back of my 911 C2! Her friends enjoy it too. They call it my "fancy car." Hearing them erupt in laughter when I step on the throttle is worth it every time.
Do the conversion if you can. You'll really enjoy taking her with you.
BTW: She's pretty tall (4'6") and fits in the back with zero issues. Same with her friends.
My T with the CF buckets and rear seat delete has the mounting points. I lifted the carpet for the DSC install and also to look for a pesky rattle and came across at least 1 mounting point.
If possible, my plan is to add rear seats and replace the LWBs with 4-way or aftermarket folding seats. My daughter is almost 8 and I'd like to enjoy this car as a family of 3, but be ready for the teen years when she hates me and I want LWBs.
All the mounting points (seat belt and threaded holes for seat, etc) are there except the pin to hold up the seat back. These are welded to the inner fender wells. The items in red circle are missing on a Carrera T with LwB and are missing on GT cars. Ie Carrera T with LWB have same part number inner fender well as GT cars.
Last edited by Norge911; Jan 14, 2021 at 04:06 PM.
Awesome, thank you! To make sure I understand it: the Carrera T with LWB shares part #4 with the GT cars, but the floor pan piece with the Carrera cars, correct?
If I were to install rear seats in a Carrera T with LWB I would have mounting points for seats and seatbelts, but the not pin that holds the seats upright. Correct?
Awesome, thank you! To make sure I understand it: the Carrera T with LWB shares part #4 with the GT cars, but the floor pan piece with the Carrera cars,
If I were to install rear seats in a Carrera T with LWB I would have mounting points for seats and seatbelts, but the not pin that holds the seats upright. Correct?
Correct, floor pan is Carrera. The GT floor pan changes because of different engine layout, transmission, and suspension mounts.
yes, mounting points on C pillar and floor are there for the seat belt and threaded holes in floor are there for seat. Only missing is the pin and the mounting for it, so your understanding is correct.
Porsche PET diagram, it does not show T w LWB but in looked behind the rear panel and the mount is not there for the pin. The rear interior panel for T is also same part number as GT cars vs Carrera w back seats.
I don't get the rear seat delete thing: Why on earth is porsche not offering a GT3 touring with back seats ? I'd sell all my cars for one (manual please).
It totally kills the car for people who may want to use it semi-daily.
I don't get the rear seat delete thing: Why on earth is porsche not offering a GT3 touring with back seats ? I'd sell all my cars for one (manual please).
It totally kills the car for people who may want to use it semi-daily.
Would have been the ultimate 991 GT3 for me…as a GT3 I could actually use daily in this season of life. Turns out, the reason is pretty simple.
While some people point out weight (thinner metal, less equipment, etc), homologation requirements and tires are more significant. As I understood it, homologation/legislation are key: As soon as you have back seats, the rear tires must meet certain requirements for not just the extra weight of some seats, belts, brackets, and thicker metal, but also the weight of two adults back there. That will have knock-on effects in a number of ways that affect the tires as well as performance. It can be done, of course (see Carrera/S/GTS or Turbo models), but there are ramifications that go beyond wing delete and some visual tweaks.
Would have been the ultimate 991 GT3 for me…as a GT3 I could actually use daily in this season of life. Turns out, the reason is pretty simple.
While some people point out weight (thinner metal, less equipment, etc), homologation requirements and tires are more significant. As I understood it, homologation/legislation are key: As soon as you have back seats, the rear tires must meet certain requirements for not just the extra weight of some seats, belts, brackets, and thicker metal, but also the weight of two adults back there. That will have knock-on effects in a number of ways that affect the tires as well as performance. It can be done, of course (see Carrera/S/GTS or Turbo models), but there are ramifications that go beyond wing delete and some visual tweaks.
Thanks for the info Pete - that makes sense and you'd know better than us, still I think there's a market they're missing here - they should have done it for the touring IMO.... They could possibly homologate it with lightweight rear seats / minimum padding / "for kids under 60Kgs" only - whatever it takes... I can't be the only person who'd sell everything for one with no wing and rear wheel steering ;-) As it is I can't justify ever buying one as a 2 seater-only toy, but having driven one at PECLA - I'm smitten. I'd sell my 991.1 + 1972 911 for one. That bad.
Does the Carrera T with carbon buckets have rear seat mounting points?
