Reference Guide to PTS
12-30-2017, 08:59 AM
#3558
One more part to the puzzle as how PAG negotiated PTS, or the lack of it, on the .2 991
gt3 for the UK market. Compare to Australia (5 PTS reported), Canada (25 or so PTS)
and the US (still counting!). We will come back to these reports & try to make sense of
how/what PAG did differently re: PTS on the .2 991 gt3 (from previous history of handling
PTS) when we (hopefully) learn final PTS numbers for this current gt3 model in all markets!
Thank you ISUK. Very interesting information you are providing us from the UK.
In case folks don't know/remember ISUK in this forum, this gentleman is a known
collector in Britain of German & Italian sport cars with a particular taste for PTS!
In addition, he figured out how the Targa top on the 991 was going to mechanically
work before PAG announced its particulars!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7920...ry-2014-a.html
So when ISUK posts, I listen! He is well-connected!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
gt3 for the UK market. Compare to Australia (5 PTS reported), Canada (25 or so PTS)
and the US (still counting!). We will come back to these reports & try to make sense of
how/what PAG did differently re: PTS on the .2 991 gt3 (from previous history of handling
PTS) when we (hopefully) learn final PTS numbers for this current gt3 model in all markets!
Thank you ISUK. Very interesting information you are providing us from the UK.
In case folks don't know/remember ISUK in this forum, this gentleman is a known
collector in Britain of German & Italian sport cars with a particular taste for PTS!
In addition, he figured out how the Targa top on the 991 was going to mechanically
work before PAG announced its particulars!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7920...ry-2014-a.html
So when ISUK posts, I listen! He is well-connected!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
12-30-2017, 04:41 PM
#3559
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
One more part to the puzzle as how PAG negotiated PTS, or the lack of it, on the .2 991
gt3 for the UK market. Compare to Australia (5 PTS reported), Canada (25 or so PTS)
and the US (still counting!). We will come back to these reports & try to make sense of
how/what PAG did differently re: PTS on the .2 991 gt3 (from previous history of handling
PTS) when we (hopefully) learn final PTS numbers for this current gt3 model in all markets!
Thank you ISUK. Very interesting information you are providing us from the UK.
In case folks don't know/remember ISUK in this forum, this gentleman is a known
collector in Britain of German & Italian sport cars with a particular taste for PTS!
In addition, he figured out how the Targa top on the 991 was going to mechanically
work before PAG announced its particulars!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7920...ry-2014-a.html
So when ISUK posts, I listen! He is well-connected!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
gt3 for the UK market. Compare to Australia (5 PTS reported), Canada (25 or so PTS)
and the US (still counting!). We will come back to these reports & try to make sense of
how/what PAG did differently re: PTS on the .2 991 gt3 (from previous history of handling
PTS) when we (hopefully) learn final PTS numbers for this current gt3 model in all markets!
Thank you ISUK. Very interesting information you are providing us from the UK.
In case folks don't know/remember ISUK in this forum, this gentleman is a known
collector in Britain of German & Italian sport cars with a particular taste for PTS!
In addition, he figured out how the Targa top on the 991 was going to mechanically
work before PAG announced its particulars!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7920...ry-2014-a.html
So when ISUK posts, I listen! He is well-connected!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
My dealer (the largest in Americas 4th largest city and with 4 stores nationally and lots of Porsche
Exclusive traffic) isn't aware of this. They did say that an allocation must be designated as an PTS
allocation to be so (not any allocation can get PTS). Not sure if this is any different than the past.
New allocations are a few months out.
Exclusive traffic) isn't aware of this. They did say that an allocation must be designated as an PTS
allocation to be so (not any allocation can get PTS). Not sure if this is any different than the past.
New allocations are a few months out.
for that particular Porsche market! Are we in the same page, Texas?
We know how PCNA is handling PTS for the .2 991 gt3 in the US (so far) & it's different from how
PCNA has handled PTS on previous gt models. It's also different from how Porsche Canada &
Porsche Australia are handling PTS on the .2 991 gt3 at present time too!
Texas - You can read our various threads here on Rennlist so that you can see the difference from
the past if you care to educate yourself on the subject. Or not.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
12-30-2017, 05:03 PM
#3560
Is not aware of what? What ISUK told us is about PTS for the .2 991 gt3 in the United Kingdom
for that particular Porsche market! Are we in the same page, Texas?
We know how PCNA is handling PTS for the .2 991 gt3 in the US (so far) & it's different from how
PCNA has handled PTS on previous gt models. It's also different from how Porsche Canada &
Porsche Australia are handling PTS on the .2 991 gt3 at present time too!
Texas - You can read our various threads here on Rennlist so that you can see the difference from
the past if you care to educate yourself on the subject. Or not.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
for that particular Porsche market! Are we in the same page, Texas?
We know how PCNA is handling PTS for the .2 991 gt3 in the US (so far) & it's different from how
PCNA has handled PTS on previous gt models. It's also different from how Porsche Canada &
Porsche Australia are handling PTS on the .2 991 gt3 at present time too!
Texas - You can read our various threads here on Rennlist so that you can see the difference from
the past if you care to educate yourself on the subject. Or not.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
Are you always this anti-social Eduardo? Relax - or not.....
12-30-2017, 08:53 PM
#3561
01-04-2018, 03:02 PM
#3562
Three Wheelin'
PTS costs and dream colors to be added
Took a stab at getting Aga Blue approved, but didn't realize the cost involved... $25,650 for feasibility study (which includes PTS for your car, if approved). Missed that cost in this thread. If not approved, Porsche assumes all costs. Fair enough I guess, but too rich for me at the moment.
Money to burn, I'd fork over the cash for the following four feasibility studies:
-Aga Blue
-Albert Blue
-Ossi Blue
-Tangerine
These are some of Porsche's very finest hues IMHO that are not currently approved' PTS colors.
Colors we'll never see because they were declined include Aquamarine, Aubergine and Signal Orange.
My thanks to Eduardo and Dave for helping me with many questions.
Anthony
Money to burn, I'd fork over the cash for the following four feasibility studies:
-Aga Blue
-Albert Blue
-Ossi Blue
-Tangerine
These are some of Porsche's very finest hues IMHO that are not currently approved' PTS colors.
Colors we'll never see because they were declined include Aquamarine, Aubergine and Signal Orange.
My thanks to Eduardo and Dave for helping me with many questions.
Anthony
Last edited by bluehorseshoe; 01-04-2018 at 05:12 PM.
01-04-2018, 06:42 PM
#3563
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Took a stab at getting Aga Blue approved, but didn't realize the cost involved...
$25,650 for feasibility study (which includes PTS for your car, if approved).
Missed that cost in this thread. If not approved, Porsche assumes all costs.
Fair enough I guess, but too rich for me at the moment.
$25,650 for feasibility study (which includes PTS for your car, if approved).
Missed that cost in this thread. If not approved, Porsche assumes all costs.
Fair enough I guess, but too rich for me at the moment.
have heard of it. So for the sake of accuracy & not to spread 'fake news',
can you tell us who told you that & full details of your conversation with
'them' on this subject. Thanks. And then we can attempt to have that
confirmed by PAG/PCNA. Until now, there has never been a charge
for doing a feasibility study for a Porsche customer. The people that
do the feasibility are the paint subcontractors, not PAG. The other odd
thing about what you are telliing us is that $25,650 sort of guarantees
you PTS even if you don't have yet an allocation, which is not the
usual manner the PTS system has worked in the past.
****
Money to burn, I'd fork over the cash for the following
four feasibility studies:
-Aga Blue
-Albert Blue
-Ossi Blue
-Tangerine
These are some of Porsche's very finest hues IMHO
that are not currently approved' PTS colors.
Colors we'll never see because they were declined
include Aquamarine, Aubergine and Signal Orange.
My thanks to Eduardo and Dave for helping me with
many questions.
Anthony
four feasibility studies:
-Aga Blue
-Albert Blue
-Ossi Blue
-Tangerine
These are some of Porsche's very finest hues IMHO
that are not currently approved' PTS colors.
Colors we'll never see because they were declined
include Aquamarine, Aubergine and Signal Orange.
My thanks to Eduardo and Dave for helping me with
many questions.
Anthony
They either failed the feasibility study or PAG decided
not to approved them because it might reflect too well
against a recently introduced 'special color' like 'Lava'!
In question are 'Tangerine/Bloodorange', 'Signal Orange'
& 'Continental Orange', all denied around the time 'Lava
Orange' was introduced. So it would be futile to try to
get 'Tangerine' approved at the present time. But 'Aga',
'Albert' & 'Ossi' might be doable. We really don't know
why 'Aubergine' & 'Aquamarine' were rejected. The
world of PTS at Porsche is a pretty opaque...so no
explanations are given as to why colors are rejected!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
01-04-2018, 11:22 PM
#3565
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
More personnel changes at 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in Atlanta
More unsettling news about PCNA & 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in the US.
I have been informed that Jon Brunot, who recently was named as the
replacement for Melissa Witek at 'Exclusive Manufaktur' at PCNA-Atlanta
is no longer with Porsche. I was also told late last summer that the manager
in charge of 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in Atlanta, Barbara Boeckenhoff, was
going to be replaced as part of normal rotation of jobs at Porsche. If anyone
knows if that has already taken place, please let us know...or pm/email me
if you have information on the personnel matter at 'Exclusive Manufaktur'
for the US.
Besides the two reps in the Los Angeles area, Philip Mauney & Florian Truffner,
'Exclusive Manufaktur' is still represented by Yana Nikolayeva & Michael Tam
(if he is still there?) in Atlanta! That is to my knowledge.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9471...h-america.html
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
I have been informed that Jon Brunot, who recently was named as the
replacement for Melissa Witek at 'Exclusive Manufaktur' at PCNA-Atlanta
is no longer with Porsche. I was also told late last summer that the manager
in charge of 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in Atlanta, Barbara Boeckenhoff, was
going to be replaced as part of normal rotation of jobs at Porsche. If anyone
knows if that has already taken place, please let us know...or pm/email me
if you have information on the personnel matter at 'Exclusive Manufaktur'
for the US.
Besides the two reps in the Los Angeles area, Philip Mauney & Florian Truffner,
'Exclusive Manufaktur' is still represented by Yana Nikolayeva & Michael Tam
(if he is still there?) in Atlanta! That is to my knowledge.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9471...h-america.html
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
01-05-2018, 08:57 AM
#3567
More unsettling news about PCNA & 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in the US.
I have been informed that Jon Brunot, who recently was named as the
replacement for Melissa Witek at 'Exclusive Manufaktur' at PCNA-Atlanta
is no longer with Porsche. I was also told late last summer that the manager
in charge of 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in Atlanta, Barbara Boeckenhoff, was
going to be replaced as part of normal rotation of jobs at Porsche. If anyone
knows if that has already taken place, please let us know...or pm/email me
if you have information on the personnel matter at 'Exclusive Manufaktur'
for the US.
Besides the two reps in the Los Angeles area, Philip Mauney & Florian Truffner,
'Exclusive Manufaktur' is still represented by Yana Nikolayeva & Michael Tam
(if he is still there?) in Atlanta! That is to my knowledge.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9471...h-america.html
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
I have been informed that Jon Brunot, who recently was named as the
replacement for Melissa Witek at 'Exclusive Manufaktur' at PCNA-Atlanta
is no longer with Porsche. I was also told late last summer that the manager
in charge of 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in Atlanta, Barbara Boeckenhoff, was
going to be replaced as part of normal rotation of jobs at Porsche. If anyone
knows if that has already taken place, please let us know...or pm/email me
if you have information on the personnel matter at 'Exclusive Manufaktur'
for the US.
Besides the two reps in the Los Angeles area, Philip Mauney & Florian Truffner,
'Exclusive Manufaktur' is still represented by Yana Nikolayeva & Michael Tam
(if he is still there?) in Atlanta! That is to my knowledge.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9471...h-america.html
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
I met Michael Tam and have his business card, so I'll reach out to him to try to get the scoop, as well of course confirm that he's still there.
01-05-2018, 03:46 PM
#3568
Rennlist Member
Took a stab at getting Aga Blue approved, but didn't realize the cost involved... $25,650 for feasibility study (which includes PTS for your car, if approved). Missed that cost in this thread. If not approved, Porsche assumes all costs. Fair enough I guess, but too rich for me at the moment.
Money to burn, I'd fork over the cash for the following four feasibility studies:
-Aga Blue
-Albert Blue
-Ossi Blue
-Tangerine
These are some of Porsche's very finest hues IMHO that are not currently approved' PTS colors.
Colors we'll never see because they were declined include Aquamarine, Aubergine and Signal Orange.
My thanks to Eduardo and Dave for helping me with many questions.
Anthony
Money to burn, I'd fork over the cash for the following four feasibility studies:
-Aga Blue
-Albert Blue
-Ossi Blue
-Tangerine
These are some of Porsche's very finest hues IMHO that are not currently approved' PTS colors.
Colors we'll never see because they were declined include Aquamarine, Aubergine and Signal Orange.
My thanks to Eduardo and Dave for helping me with many questions.
Anthony
His reply this morning was the same $25,650 for feasibility study!
Even at $12k it was rich. Hopefully somebody else gets one of these three blues approved soon
, then I can get them for just $12k.
Albert Blue - 1970
01-05-2018, 05:04 PM
#3569
I inquired yesterday "I don't see Albert Blue, Ossi or Aga blues on the PTS list" to my sales guy.
His reply this morning was the same $25,650 for feasibility study!
Even at $12k it was rich. Hopefully somebody else gets one of these three blues approved soon, then I can get them for just $12k.
Albert Blue - 1970
His reply this morning was the same $25,650 for feasibility study!
Even at $12k it was rich. Hopefully somebody else gets one of these three blues approved soon
, then I can get them for just $12k.Albert Blue - 1970
Why don't you try crowd-sourcing the $26k and split it amongst a few people? I am sure there are many others who would love those colors. Just a thought.
01-05-2018, 06:31 PM
#3570
I got the same message in Germany, if a color is not on the list, 2x times of the current PTS price is requested. Currently the sticker is 9870 Euro in Germany for PTS on the current GT cars, so double if you want a new color... Porsche is the master in squeezing the lemon always a little more, OK, ignore the "little" for a second. I guess we will not see to many new colors in the future on the list.