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#166
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The more I look at the numbers and the results on this motor, the more convinced I am that running lower CR is far better. The cylinders fill up so efficiently with the 16V head, it just does not make sense to give up the volume. To go from 8.2:1 to 9.2:1 I give up about 3% cylinder volume and gain about 3% in thermal conversion efficiency. Now given the weakness of the head due to bore size, it just does not make sense in my view.
If one runs a big enough turbo and small enough exhaust port, then one can by my logic run relatively long valve overlap because the exhaust back pressure is in check. This longer overlap and favorable pressure differentials will evacuate even a large combustion chamber.
In terms of chamber shape, at your boost levels I wouldn't intentionally create squish or speed up the combustion. It's going to burn very fast anyway.
Is there a general consensus what kinds of measured peak cylinder pressure these 951s can safely run, either on 100mm bore and stock open-deck block or with these larger 104mm sleeved blocks?
Last edited by ptuomov; 03-09-2017 at 09:06 AM.
#167
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Have you done any more testing on this motor Shawn?
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#169
Bumping because I just started a 3.0 16v build, Love the build! Did you ever turn the boost up higher on e85? Im using a 6662 turbo and will be running e85... Its very encouraging to see such high numbers on relatively low boost!
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Precision 6662? That is a monster, good luck, will be watching to see your boost chart.
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So does this turbo equate to say a GTX40?
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Pretty sure it is a typo Patrick, should be a CEA 6266
http://t3t4turbo.com/precision-pt6266-cea-turbo.html
http://t3t4turbo.com/precision-pt6266-cea-turbo.html
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Pretty sure it is a typo Patrick, should be a CEA 6266
http://t3t4turbo.com/precision-pt6266-cea-turbo.html
http://t3t4turbo.com/precision-pt6266-cea-turbo.html
its closer to the gtx3582r but slightly bigger on comp wheel. Slightly smaller on both sides than a gtx40
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Just read the specs, I have a GTX3582R, as I stated earlier can't wait to see your spool characteristics, this is Not a GTX3582R thus the price. I might be totally wrong, but must agree with previous statement this will be laggy, but should have a massive top end.
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I really like how you've done the engine bay. It looks 90% stock. If you had smoothed down the welds on the intake, you'd think the car is factory restored.
What is on the right of the intake with the 2 hoses coming out of either end?
What is on the right of the intake with the 2 hoses coming out of either end?
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Really nice job Shawn. I agree with Pauly. Almost factory looking. As mentioned elsewhere, can't believe how good these 16v motors can be. 492whp at 15.5psi is very healthy. Obviously Gustaf, Rod, Peep, Zoran and some others have had excellent results unable to be matched by the 8v counterparts. I've also made contact with another guy who has built a 16v race motor that he saw 400whp / ft-b at 6psi ! Despite differences in dynos and conditions, it's all very positive indeed.
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Thanks.
Thanks Paul. That is the ISV, no other place to put it. Very tight install with the Revline intake.
Thanks Patrick.
Really nice job Shawn. I agree with Pauly. Almost factory looking. As mentioned elsewhere, can't believe how good these 16v motors can be. 492whp at 15.5psi is very healthy. Obviously Gustaf, Rod, Peep, Zoran and some others have had excellent results unable to be matched by the 8v counterparts. I've also made contact with another guy who has built a 16v race motor that he saw 400whp / ft-b at 6psi ! Despite differences in dynos and conditions, it's all very positive indeed.