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Old 03-19-2017, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Judging from Porsche's track record on naming GT cars.................

The GT4-class racing series are picking up steam worldwide, and Porsche already had a GT4 race car that races worldwide. Never say never, but seems likely.

If Porsche do indeed migrate their GT3-class race cars to turbo engines, then the 992 gen GT3 could very well be turbo-ed too, and it would open up a previously occupied performance space for say a GT4RS.

I guess AP is still correct in saying there won't be a GT4RS in the near future, as Porsche Motorsport hasn't decided whether they will go turbo or not.
What about GT4 CS? Are they making more? New generation? This cannot be it, with everyone else releasing new and fast GT4 cars.
Old 03-19-2017, 07:13 PM
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Only 500 will be made and it's cosmetics only.
Made my day. I'd be bummed to pick up my brand new Turbo S at Leipzig and drive it to Goodwood to see something much better and obtainable. Looks like it's going to be neither of these two things.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
What about GT4 CS? Are they making more? New generation? This cannot be it, with everyone else releasing new and fast GT4 cars.

Let's just say Dr. Walliser & Co. didn't expect the warm reception of the GT4CS.

Initially they were only going to make 120, ended up doing 300 or so.

As they put it, they have discovered an untapped market.
Old 03-19-2017, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Let's just say Dr. Walliser & Co. didn't expect the warm reception of the GT4CS.

Initially they were only going to make 120, ended up doing 300 or so.

As they put it, they have discovered an untapped market.
Love that story spin.

I wonder how many were built to serve as repair parts and how many wound up in a HPDE environment compared to the race series.
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Let's just say Dr. Walliser & Co. didn't expect the warm reception of the GT4CS.

Initially they were only going to make 120, ended up doing 300 or so.

As they put it, they have discovered an untapped market.
Well, not to put words into your mouth but it makes me think, a reasonable company that they are, they will tap this market. But since the demand was not fully anticipated, there may be some delay before they do so. I may be reading too much into that, but sometimes not knowing for sure is even more fun than knowing

Meanwhile, have you considered doing an AirBnB-style thing with your GT4 CS?
Old 03-19-2017, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy

As they put it, they have discovered an untapped market.
Seriously? More like Rennlist screamed so loud they couldn't ignore it.

Honestly, we should be paid a market research fee.
Old 03-20-2017, 01:15 AM
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drove a gt4 CS this weekend. tires had maybe 10 heat cycles left in them.. so past their midpoint for sure.. but MAN what a fun ride. PDK works fantastically for this application, and the light racey feel added to the sensation. The engine felt a bit gutless to be honest, but that's because I had just climbed out of a 675LT and other higher hp cars. But the cornering feeling which comes from a light car on slicks was quite new to me and really fun to experience. Not sure what these are going for, but if anywhere close to the regular gt4, I can't imagine buying anything else in the price range to get smiles on your face.
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Great package.

I'm hoping for a DE track focused low level 991 CUP with PDK.
Basically a factory caged 991RS completely stripped just like a GT4CS but 991CS Instead..
Old 03-20-2017, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
Love that story spin.

I wonder how many were built to serve as repair parts and how many wound up in a HPDE environment compared to the race series.
I bought mine for hpde....and when I did there were ~10 left in the US, 3x of which had the big fuel cell.
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Not sure what these are going for, but if anywhere close to the regular gt4, I can't imagine buying anything else in the price range to get smiles on your face.
Very hard to find any available, and 175k+ new.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Seriously? More like Rennlist screamed so loud they couldn't ignore it.

Honestly, we should be paid a market research fee.

What do you expect? They are Germans! They only think straight.

Initially they were worried about selling out the 120 cars, they thought it's a race car, not a street car and the market would be small, only race teams would buy them. And since it's a brand new series with such a 'low' entry level race car not many would be interested.

They had a shocking surprise when they introduced it at the LA Autoshow, over 900 'interests' were registered. But as we all know 'interest' doesn't always translate to sales and they settled for 300 cars production.

As it stands, the majority of the cars were bought as a track day toy, hence they 'found' the untapped market.
Old 03-20-2017, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
Love that story spin.

I wonder how many were built to serve as repair parts and how many wound up in a HPDE environment compared to the race series.

The initial planned 120 cars were already accounted for the actual race cars and repair spares. You do the math on how many were sold as track toys
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
What do you expect? They are Germans! They only think straight.

Initially they were worried about selling out the 120 cars, they thought it's a race car, not a street car and the market would be small, only race teams would buy them. And since it's a brand new series with such a 'low' entry level race car not many would be interested.

They had a shocking surprise when they introduced it at the LA Autoshow, over 900 'interests' were registered. But as we all know 'interest' doesn't always translate to sales and they settled for 300 cars production.

As it stands, the majority of the cars were bought as a track day toy, hence they 'found' the untapped market.
And they would've sold quite a few more without the originally-marketed series restriction.

But I should clarify that I thought we were talking about GT4 not GT4 CS when I made my comment.
Old 03-20-2017, 05:17 PM
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The GT4 drove the Clubsport market is my guess. Even Porsche couldn't believe what a good car the GT4 turned out to be! And they sold it too cheap! They know that now...it would've sold 120K $ starting all day long!


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