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Old 03-09-2017, 10:57 AM
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hmmm.... seems like an honest guy, but Flat 6 docs would help.
Old 03-09-2017, 11:26 AM
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If the rebuild was in 2010, then according to the carfax that was done by owner #3. Seller is owner #5. High probability of paperwork disappearing along the way.


Originally Posted by b3freak
The seller states RE: Flat 6 Innovations


Old 03-09-2017, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by vitaminC
If the rebuild was in 2010, then according to the carfax that was done by owner #3. Seller is owner #5. High probability of paperwork disappearing along the way.
Car looks like it was driven like a Honda. What a shame for a 40yr car bumped out to 3.8L!
Old 03-09-2017, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vitaminC
If the rebuild was in 2010, then according to the carfax that was done by owner #3. Seller is owner #5. High probability of paperwork disappearing along the way.
For what its worth there is a Flat 6 Innovations sticker on the door jamb visible in the photos.
Old 03-09-2017, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
Millennium was 2000 - this is a 2004 40th Anniversary Edition - I'd be concerned about the oil issues though.
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Yes, I know that MEs are model year 2000, but I didn't think about it when typing last night. I meant to say 40th Anniversary (40 Jahre).

As others have said, I too think there is lots of reason to be suspicious about the lack of care and maintenance this last owner has had for the car. It could be a diamond in the rough of sorts, but in addition to engine repair (replacement?) it will likely need attention to deferred maintenance, appearance refreshening, etc. Only a bargain if it could be gotten for cheap...
Old 03-09-2017, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by VivG
I think that was Jaetee's car. Good price for an Mk1 with that many miles (for the seller). Might have to go down the BaT road on mine.
Yessir, that was indeed my 2000 Cabriolet. I will admit I was sweatin' bullets going into the final two minutes of the auction, and ended up very pleased. I will be shopping for a nice coupe soon. And I have two somewhat local cars picked out already.

I can tell you that if you do sell on BaT.... don't do it half-heartedly. Having a leakdown test, oil analysis and shooting photos of your paperwork is very much worth the effort. I was also very responsive to comments and questions.

The buyer of the car told me this morning that my commentary and quality of my photos and additional info provided made all the difference to give him confidence in the auction.

Dealing with the paperwork and logistics now.
Old 03-09-2017, 01:57 PM
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Regarding that 2004 on BaT right now, did any of you see that photo of the chunk of metal missing out of the engine block? Doesn't look generally debilitating, but exactly where is that spot and what could have caused that????
Old 03-09-2017, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vitaminC
If the rebuild was in 2010, then according to the carfax that was done by owner #3. Seller is owner #5. High probability of paperwork disappearing along the way.
(see attached CarFax)

Notice the gap between 2008 and 2010. As we know, 2010 being the year that Flat6 reconstructed this engine.

Raises a few concerns:

1. Did the original 3.6L x51 engine experience serious failure that required Flat6 services and the third owner optioned to have it upgraded to a 3.8L??

2. Was the car potentially tracked and engine upgraded to 3.8L for more performance?

3. Was the car damaged in some way and put in storage which would explain why it wasn't officially registered for 2009?

4. Maybe the car was scheduled for the upgrade by Flat6 and the owner decided not to fool with registration in 2009?

5. Maybe since 2010, the car hasn't been serviced and maintained properly which would have nothing to do with Flat6 and more about an owner's negligence?







Interesting!
Old 03-09-2017, 02:26 PM
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Part of the fun is using your imagination to make up various backstories!

The car is just down the road from me... Would be interesting to talk to the seller in person and see what he's got to say.

Originally Posted by b3freak
(see attached CarFax)

Notice the gap between 2008 and 2010. As we know, 2010 being the year that Flat6 reconstructed this engine.

Raises a few concerns:

1. Did the original 3.6L x51 engine experience serious failure that required Flat6 services and the third owner optioned to have it upgraded to a 3.8L??

2. Was the car potentially tracked and engine upgraded to 3.8L for more performance?

3. Was the car damaged in some way and put in storage which would explain why it wasn't officially registered for 2009?

4. Maybe the car was scheduled for the upgrade by Flat6 and the owner decided not to fool with registration in 2009?

5. Maybe since 2010, the car hasn't been serviced and maintained properly which would have nothing to do with Flat6 and more about an owner's negligence?

Interesting!
Old 03-09-2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jaetee
I can tell you that if you do sell on BaT.... don't do it half-heartedly. Having a leakdown test, oil analysis and shooting photos of your paperwork is very much worth the effort. I was also very responsive to comments and questions.

The buyer of the car told me this morning that my commentary and quality of my photos and additional info provided made all the difference to give him confidence in the auction.

Dealing with the paperwork and logistics now.
Congrat's! Yes, a little more work on your end can definitely pay big dividends over at BAT. Were I going to list my car there, I would even get a PPI done first. Better to just get everything out in the open so it's not open to endless speculation like the 2004 we're discussing...
Old 03-09-2017, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by b3freak



hmmm.... seems like an honest guy, but Flat 6 docs would help.
Could even be as simple as an AOS with that description.

Gotta have a leakdown test done. Must, must, must.
Old 03-09-2017, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
Could even be as simple as an AOS with that description.

Gotta have a leakdown test done. Must, must, must.
Explain a "leakdown test" Doc. Is that like when you say, "Now go pee in the cup"?
Old 03-09-2017, 03:15 PM
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Jake Raby chimed in to shed light on the 40thAE on BAT:


Old 03-09-2017, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by vitaminC
Part of the fun is using your imagination to make up various backstories!

The car is just down the road from me... Would be interesting to talk to the seller in person and see what he's got to say.
My #1 concern was correct - i.e. IMS failure

(See Raby's post on BAT attached in the previous post.)
Old 03-09-2017, 03:51 PM
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Anyone close enough to go check it out? This would be the only silver car I would consider...


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