Mid-Engine Has Arrived
#16
Mid-engine 911 coming soon?
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...gined-911-rsr/
According to this article from Road and Track magazine, if the new 2017 911RSR become a success, would Porsche make future 911 with mid-engine? Free free to express your opinions friends...!
According to this article from Road and Track magazine, if the new 2017 911RSR become a success, would Porsche make future 911 with mid-engine? Free free to express your opinions friends...!
#17
Rennlist Member
new 911 RSR is moving its engine fwd.
not quite to aka 928 but getting there:
"The new 911 RSR makes full use of the breadth of the Le Mans 24 Hours GT regulations, and in addition to systematic lightweight design, features the ultra-modern, flat-six unit positioned in front of the rear axle."
took 'em long enough
"The new 911 RSR makes full use of the breadth of the Le Mans 24 Hours GT regulations, and in addition to systematic lightweight design, features the ultra-modern, flat-six unit positioned in front of the rear axle."
took 'em long enough
#18
RL Community Team
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#19
Rennlist Member
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...ced-in-la.html and here:http://flatsixes.com/cars/porsche-ra...ngine-911-rsr/ This is going to be a beast. T
Last edited by 77tony; 11-17-2016 at 02:39 AM.
#21
Nordschleife Master
It was only a matter of time.
Now, make the street version of it and I would - well, I won't be able to afford it, but I would want one.
Now, make the street version of it and I would - well, I won't be able to afford it, but I would want one.
#24
Rennlist Member
Seriously, how is this not a Cayman?
#25
I held the same opinion for years now.
Porsche went 4-cylinder and "casual-friendly" with the Cayman/Boxster to make room for a new sports vehicle placed between Boxster/Cayman and 911.
The VW emissions scandal then killed the project or at least delayed it for years.
I don't think they made the gap as wide as it got just to coerce people to upgrade from 718 to 991.2 when buying new. There are several reasons why I think that doesn't make sense. They also had the China aspect that made it really convenient to have a 2.0 liter car with whatever their horsepower limit for low taxes is over there.
So why not create a huge gap and then rip off the Americans with a real sports car? The 992 is then free to go even more GT, which is awesome since they need to get the batteries and electric motors for KERS in.
As a new-ish development, I also expect that the complete craze about going turbo to lower emissions gets a huge damper. We all here now that those savings are just for the test cycles and don't work out that way in practice. The 718 doesn't even claim to be more efficient than the 981. I think the VW scandal will make governments come up with much better test cycles, as a consequence naturally aspirated engines don't look that bad anymore, and enthusiast cars are more free to not do turbo.
Of course a N/A car offered in 2017 would not attract casual buyers who like the low end torque, so even if it drives up fleet consumption a bit there would be limits to it.
Porsche went 4-cylinder and "casual-friendly" with the Cayman/Boxster to make room for a new sports vehicle placed between Boxster/Cayman and 911.
The VW emissions scandal then killed the project or at least delayed it for years.
I don't think they made the gap as wide as it got just to coerce people to upgrade from 718 to 991.2 when buying new. There are several reasons why I think that doesn't make sense. They also had the China aspect that made it really convenient to have a 2.0 liter car with whatever their horsepower limit for low taxes is over there.
So why not create a huge gap and then rip off the Americans with a real sports car? The 992 is then free to go even more GT, which is awesome since they need to get the batteries and electric motors for KERS in.
As a new-ish development, I also expect that the complete craze about going turbo to lower emissions gets a huge damper. We all here now that those savings are just for the test cycles and don't work out that way in practice. The 718 doesn't even claim to be more efficient than the 981. I think the VW scandal will make governments come up with much better test cycles, as a consequence naturally aspirated engines don't look that bad anymore, and enthusiast cars are more free to not do turbo.
Of course a N/A car offered in 2017 would not attract casual buyers who like the low end torque, so even if it drives up fleet consumption a bit there would be limits to it.
#27
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#28
Would the 911 grow more than it already has? to add those tiny back seats it would have to add quite a few inches? and then what, a rear half trunk? a shelf?
#29
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#30
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...gined-911-rsr/
Road and Track wrote an article that 2017 911 RSR will be mid-engine, is it means future 911 will be mid-engine also? Feel free to express your opinions rennlisters.
Road and Track wrote an article that 2017 911 RSR will be mid-engine, is it means future 911 will be mid-engine also? Feel free to express your opinions rennlisters.
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