Installed Hawk Ceramic Brake Pads on a 997.2
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the rear work well and have decent feel. they do squeak a little more but the dust is so much better i can't imagine stock pads.
the customer service at hawks is insane. can't see why it would take 7 months to make brake pads....
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7 months later and still no front pads for TT cars.
the rear work well and have decent feel. they do squeak a little more but the dust is so much better i can't imagine stock pads.
the customer service at hawks is insane. can't see why it would take 7 months to make brake pads....
the rear work well and have decent feel. they do squeak a little more but the dust is so much better i can't imagine stock pads.
the customer service at hawks is insane. can't see why it would take 7 months to make brake pads....
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997.1 and 997.2 Carrera S brakes are the exact same...FYI.
Different pads feel different....you can introduce air into the system by just swapping pads out. Whe. You swap pads...pump the brakes like 10 times until pressure builds back up and then go drive the car. Be aware that you will need to seat the new pads to the rotors and to transfer pad the new pad material to the rotor. Until this is done the brake will not grad the rotors as good as they can.
Different pads feel different....you can introduce air into the system by just swapping pads out. Whe. You swap pads...pump the brakes like 10 times until pressure builds back up and then go drive the car. Be aware that you will need to seat the new pads to the rotors and to transfer pad the new pad material to the rotor. Until this is done the brake will not grad the rotors as good as they can.
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Looking at getting Hawk Ceramic brake pads for my 2006 997.1 C4.
I am surprised how much brake dust I get.
I made this handy graphic from page 114/5 of the manual.
I think my part is:
[Edit] I have a C4 not a C4S. the part numbers listed below are for the 4S. Not sure about a C4.
HB483 Z.635 (front)
HB664 Z.634 (rear)
Z=Ceramic
Not sure what pad compounds are for.
I am surprised how much brake dust I get.
I made this handy graphic from page 114/5 of the manual.
I think my part is:
[Edit] I have a C4 not a C4S. the part numbers listed below are for the 4S. Not sure about a C4.
HB483 Z.635 (front)
HB664 Z.634 (rear)
Z=Ceramic
Not sure what pad compounds are for.
Last edited by 911searcher; Jul 20, 2015 at 10:15 PM.
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The safest thing I can recommend is to find a firm post by another 997.1 Carrera 4 owner saying which one is correct or maybe even make a fresh post with the title something like "Correct Hawk Pad for a 997.1 C4?". You can also take a look at a known Carrera 4 pad shape (maybe your own if you can get a good enough look) and compare it to the diagrams starting on their catalog page 184.
As to your other question, the pad compound values are listed on that download on page 9. "Z" is Performance Ceramic, "F" is HPS Performance Street. You want the Z of course.
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Advising/advocating non-stock pads on a performance car forum is potentially asking for trouble. Those who do so, better have adequate liability insurance.
And this to avoid a little brake dust.
And this to avoid a little brake dust.
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I saw a post of yours on renntech.org and if I follow the tirerack link this is the part number I get:
it is the same as the C2 part number.
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...r=Without+TPMS
2006 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA 4 COUPE WITHOUT TPMS
Material: Ceramic
Manufacturer Part #: HB664Z.634 (Rear Brake Pads)(for models with iron discs only)
Material: Ceramic
Manufacturer Part #: HB667Z.622
Note: Front Brake Pads. For models w/ Iron Discs only.
Here is the link to the Ceramic Hawk
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...r=Without+TPMS
Last edited by 911searcher; Sep 8, 2015 at 01:49 AM.
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My break warning light keeps going off.
Gotta make a decision soon.
Looks like these would fit my 2006 997 C4 (non-TPMS).
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...r=Without+TPMS
Gotta make a decision soon.
Looks like these would fit my 2006 997 C4 (non-TPMS).
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...r=Without+TPMS
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Pedal softness...many times with a new install the backing plate and the pads themselves have gaps that make the pads feel 'soft'...that flexible gap can really make things feel wacky...and by the way, do not reuse backing plates.
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I really liked the non-ceramic Hawk HPS and HP pads on some of my cars. Then tried some Akebono ceramic pads several years ago on my X Sport Jag, which has always had really good brakes. I went to bed them properly, and found that from moderate speeds they simply would not completely stop the car even with two feet on the brake pedal. I promptly returned them to Tirerack, and put on my favorite Ferodo pads. I posted my experience on the reviews for the pads on the TR sale site, said they were flat out dangerous, my comment was immediately deleted.
No ceramic for me, in any of my cars.
All the best..
NV
No ceramic for me, in any of my cars.
All the best..
NV