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11-14-2017, 02:39 PM
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Posted By mass27

I don't understand how 2 dealers within close...

I don't understand how 2 dealers within close proximity, with arguably similar operating costs can have such a wildly different "philosophy" with ADM.
10-04-2017, 05:30 PM
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Posted By mass27

Goes to show you that what people talk about and...

Goes to show you that what people talk about and what they vote on a poll is not what they ultimately decide when pen comes to paper.
10-04-2017, 02:48 PM
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Posted By mass27

This is really cool to see what people are...

This is really cool to see what people are ordering. It would great to see this on a larger scale and compare to all the polls.
09-26-2017, 02:48 PM
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Posted By mass27

I think the point the SA was making was that the...

I think the point the SA was making was that the vast majority of his sales, and all auto sales in the US, are at a price less than MSRP. Therefore, when there is an opportunity to sell a car above...
09-26-2017, 12:56 PM
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Posted By mass27

^ Good point. I spoke to a local dealer and when...

^ Good point. I spoke to a local dealer and when they said they wanted a massive ADM on the GT3, I said, even at MSRP there is a lot of profit. His answer, "That's true and it would be a great...
09-06-2017, 03:02 PM
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Posted By mass27

It's amazing that in 6 months there have been...

It's amazing that in 6 months there have been over 3,300 posts (mostly) on the topic of securing an allocation for a 991.2 GT3.
08-25-2017, 05:35 PM
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Posted By mass27

I thought frozen was V250.

I thought frozen was V250.
08-22-2017, 08:14 PM
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Posted By mass27

As a data comparison point, the 991.1 GT3 was the...

As a data comparison point, the 991.1 GT3 was the same MSRP for all 3 model years: 2014, 2015, 2016.
08-18-2017, 04:51 PM
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Posted By mass27

Brett, did you mean: 1. MY2018 production,...

Brett, did you mean:

1. MY2018 production, which would end in Sept 2018?
2. Calendar year 2018 production, which would end in Dec 2018
3. Entire GT3 production, which who knows when it would...
07-21-2017, 12:15 PM
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Posted By mass27

I'd also like to hear the data on this. I have...

I'd also like to hear the data on this. I have definitely noticed (and experienced) that this GT allocation period is even worse than previous in that dealers who have not charged an ADM are now...
06-20-2017, 08:15 PM
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Posted By mass27

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.
06-20-2017, 05:41 PM
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Posted By mass27

^ Again your missing the point that Trojan/Mooty...

^ Again your missing the point that Trojan/Mooty have stated.

But, congrats that YOU feel that YOU got a fair deal.
06-20-2017, 04:08 PM
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Posted By mass27

Brother in law had deposit down for 2 years at a...

Brother in law had deposit down for 2 years at a small Midwest dealer. Agreements in both oral and writing that car will be sold for MSRP. SA called brother in law that GM wants a 15K ADM. Argues...
06-15-2017, 03:33 PM
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Posted By mass27

+1

+1
06-14-2017, 01:53 PM
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Posted By mass27

Impressed by your morals and standards. I doubt...

Impressed by your morals and standards. I doubt it will change the GM's philosophy, but it should. It's incredulous that you have had a deposit for so long, are local, and have purchased other cars...
06-01-2017, 09:41 PM
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Posted By mass27

That is crazy to hear, especially from a smaller...

That is crazy to hear, especially from a smaller dealer. I would also cease to do business with them.
05-23-2017, 03:23 PM
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Posted By mass27

+1. Most of these calculations elude even a...

+1. Most of these calculations elude even a savvy purchaser. And, certainly beyond the understanding of most SA.
05-23-2017, 03:13 PM
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Posted By mass27

Whether PAG/PCNA knows or doesn't know is...

Whether PAG/PCNA knows or doesn't know is irrelevant. The much more important question is why would "punishing" the dealer actually affect any of sales between PAG and PCNA? It wouldn't. So,...
05-17-2017, 04:13 PM
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Posted By mass27

Precisely. Now, if I had already purchased a...

Precisely. Now, if I had already purchased a bunch of cars at my dealership and they are now suddenly asking over MSRP for a GT car because of the current environment, I would have an issue with...
05-17-2017, 02:50 PM
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Posted By mass27

+1. It has been well proven that most people who...

+1. It has been well proven that most people who did pay over MSRP are very hesitant to admit it, particularly here where you are an "idiot" if you pay over MSRP.

I think the vast majority of all...
05-17-2017, 02:43 PM
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Posted By mass27

...

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05-16-2017, 04:04 PM
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Posted By mass27

I have asked the same question. Chaosoul?

I have asked the same question. Chaosoul?
05-16-2017, 01:10 PM
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Posted By mass27

Waiting is tough. Waiting without certainty is a...

Waiting is tough. Waiting without certainty is a bit foolish. It's interesting as I would bet very few of us would conduct business this way: wait, hope, pray, maybe, possibly, wait some more.

...
05-08-2017, 08:38 PM
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Posted By mass27

because PTS is not yet confirmed. Therefore,...

because PTS is not yet confirmed. Therefore, your dealer is not accurate.
05-08-2017, 11:11 AM
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Posted By mass27

Yikes

Yikes
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