GR8TRADE

Hi Folks,
I am newbie on the forum. What a resourceful place!
By looking at all the old and existing posts here, I am sure to get some quality replies!

I am in the market for my first PCar this summer (specifically interested in a 997.2 or 997.1 depending on the mileage and specs).

I was wondering if any of you can share any great or horrible experience you've previously had with a dealer? Obviously Carproof and PPI will not be skipped in my search, but I just want to mentally price in any premiums and discounts on their listed price based on your feedback. Nothing beats a good "crowd-review"! GTA has such a wide spectrum of dealers, I would definitely love to avoid the known worsts.

Thanks a head guys!

And... if you are interested to sell, please PM me as well!

theiceman

why a dealer

I am sure you will still get a CPoed car if it is new enough , is this what you are after ? I am not sure if you could still get a cpo 997.1 .
You will definitely pay a premium for this . Why not talk to someone like Derek who has a beautiful one for sale , you could buy it from a dealer if you like once they take their cut !!!

Christien

Dealers offer a certain amount of protection because of how regulated the industry is. Their cars generally cost more, and they know less about them. That last fact doesn't really matter, because you should always get an independent inspection anyway. The only exception to that would be a CPO car. Those would be the most expensive, but when you factor in peace of mind, it's probably worth it.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the good vs bad dealers. If the price is right and the car passes and independent inspection, buy it. The dealer could be the slimiest, most dishonest guy on the planet but if he's holding a good car that's priced well, who cares. Just make sure you've done all your homework. Again, get an inspection.

Private sales will have better prices but you're completely on your own, so you need to do that much more homework. Run the carproof or carfax (or both). Call a local dealer and ask them to run the VIN for service records. If they balk, offer to pay them for their time. Have the car inspected by someone other than the seller's mechanic.

Did I mention, make sure you get an inspection?

NOBLEGT3

Stay away from non factory dealers for the most part. Private sales get a PPI done at Pfaff, Daytona, keltech , or EU autowerks.
There are a lot of junk dealers in the Gta . Be careful , only non factory dealers I would reccommend are motion endeavours ,MVL,and Daytona auto centre

cash-man

Clive - you are not getting a commission

The car is here for anyone to look at.

theiceman

im good for a ride in the GT4 tho right ?

GR8TRADE

Hey Iceman, thanks for being my first reply!

I am looking at Private sales as well, I did come across some very attractive ones, but also a few who backed out at a very late stage of the process... I guess Porsche owners generally are very attached to their baby.

But the primary reason why I am looking at a dealer is because I do have cars that can be trade in. As well, I have just been seeing a lot of activities in "new" inventories coming up in the market. Just naturally popping on my radar lately.

993GT

+1, OMVIC has mega power over dealers, and will protect the consumer at any cost...
GTA Motorcars and MVL are another good bunch...
I avoid the GTA the best I can....

theiceman

The last time I was at MVL was on Queensway (if that's the place im thinking of )

They had a Veyron sitting in the show room ... nice !!

NOBLEGT3

Yes MVL too I bought my gt3 there

993GT

Yup that used to be the location, now on South Service road in Oakville...much better location and facility now

palmpalm

My vote is go meet Tom Neumann at Pfaff Porsche His email is: tomneumann@pfaffporsche.com

Tom has been my friend for 7 years (we met motorcycling) and when I bought a Porsche ( a CPO Cayman S) I did so through him. The folks at Pfaff have been very good to me and I can't imagine a better place or better people to buy a car from or deal with.

Tom is an honest and trustworthy guy. If you want to know more/have any questions shoot me a PM.

theiceman

I have always been very impressed with the inventory they have had there. Might be worth a drop in in Oakville . I imagine they are not too far from the old Kerr Cadillac.

NOBLEGT3

Yup Tom is great I bought 4 new Porsches from him

KLCC 88

+2 for Pfaff, dealt with Thomas on my 991 and friend on his cayman S.