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Old 11-05-2015, 09:58 PM
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I dont, many fiends do. Everyone rolling on Summit 800's these days and it seems everyone gets a custom wrap too.

Most guys here head out to Valemount or north to McBride.

That **** up there is crazy.....racing cars is safer imop...
Old 11-05-2015, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sparkyglenn
I dont, many fiends do. Everyone rolling on Summit 800's these days and it seems everyone gets a custom wrap too.

Most guys here head out to Valemount or north to McBride.

That **** up there is crazy.....racing cars is safer imop...
True
Old 11-05-2015, 11:27 PM
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Can't beat a well set up two stroke ... timing key,V Force reeds and 192 Woodys !
Go green or go home , the only way to fly

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Old 11-06-2015, 12:01 AM
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A friend went sledding with a group last year and drove almost 2000k up to James Bay and back in -20 temps. I don't get that.
Old 11-06-2015, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JimV8
A friend went sledding with a group last year and drove almost 2000k up to James Bay and back in -20 temps. I don't get that.
Yeah that sucks. ....250 to 300 fast miles in A day and home Priceless
Old 11-06-2015, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 1965356
At least know what you are talking about. The sleds are oil injection not premix in the fuel this isn't 1975 .
Dude, its the same fuucken shiit! Lubrication comes from the oil mixed with the fuel. They wear out like nothing. Worst thing you can do to a 2 stroke is to close the throttle. Closed throttle=no fuel and no lubrication. Want to make them last a little longer? Don't close the throttle all the way unless you have to.

Until not that long ago all the competitive dirt bikes were all 2 stroke.....then all of a sudden the lightweight 4 stroke engines took over the field. Same thing is happening with the snowmobiles right now. Wait a bit and you'll see. Remember when all the GP bikes were 2 strokes (I had an RZ500)? The 4 strokes made them go the way of the Dodo bird too.
Old 11-06-2015, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Dude, its the same fuucken shiit! Lubrication comes from the oil mixed with the fuel. They wear out like nothing. Worst thing you can do to a 2 stroke is to close the throttle. Closed throttle=no fuel and no lubrication. Want to make them last a little longer? Don't close the throttle all the way unless you have to. Until not that long ago all the competitive dirt bikes were all 2 stroke.....then all of a sudden the lightweight 4 stroke engines took over the field. Same thing is happening with the snowmobiles right now. Wait a bit and you'll see. Remember when all the GP bikes were 2 strokes (I had an RZ500)? The 4 strokes made them go the way of the Dodo bird too.
It's not the same but similar. Sled technology hasn't caught up with dirt bike or road bike tech. If it does I will consider 4 stroke until then they are heavy and not for me. 4 stroke dirt bikes are awesome and light And I agree about closing the throttle all the way especially when coming off of a high speed run. That's how most blow up their engine

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Old 11-06-2015, 11:58 AM
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Only good thing i can think of regarding four stroke snowmobiles is the fact you don't need to use expensive synthetic two stroke oil to keep your power valves clean and super unleaded fuel ...

If you want to ride something that sounds like a lawn tractor and needs a crane to lift out if you get stuck in deep snow,then a four stroke is for you. I agree they make for a nice touring sled which has a large market and followers,but it's not for me yet.
I ride int he St Michel des Saints / St Zenon area so i see all kinds ...

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Old 11-06-2015, 01:37 PM
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Direct injection 2 stroke is advancing pretty quickly and works very well. It will be a long time before you see the guys that want great trail handling move away from 2 strokes. Are they blowing up? Yes, but you need to pay to play. In this class a lot of guys sell them after the engine warranty runs out. Anyone that wants to get into this sport needs to know it is an expensive one. I'm just happy it does cross over with my track time or I'd be broke.

The only way to make a 4 stroke pig go fast is to put a turbo or supercharger on it. Ya the big kittie is the fastest sled on the market after some upgrades, but it needs 200+ HP to move it's fat ***. Yami is putting power steering on them. Lipstick on a pig!

Everything 1965356 I agree with and not because it's his thread.
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Yup yup and yup
Old 11-06-2015, 05:11 PM
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Sounds like a lawn tractor?!?!? Are you shating me? Sounds exact like the R1 bike with aftermarket pipes. If that's a lawn tractor then I want THAT lawn tractor for my back yard.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Sounds like a lawn tractor?!?!? Are you shating me? Sounds exact like the R1 bike with aftermarket pipes. If that's a lawn tractor then I want THAT lawn tractor for my back yard.
Regardless of sound they are heavy and suck ( for now )
Braaaaap braaaaap is the noise I make passing you
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Originally Posted by 1965356
Regardless of sound they are heavy and suck ( for now )
Braaaaap braaaaap is the noise I make passing you
Since I do all my repairs, I like realiblity therefore, 4 strokes are worth the extra weight to me.
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Imo,

I'll admit i'd take a $15,000 green Turbo lawn tractor if i could afford it ... lol ...

Yes i've occasionally cooked my ZR's due to lean near meltdown jetting ,yes i love the smell of expensive Klotz synthetic race oil,yes i like to pull start a high compression 900 twin in -35 C mornings and yes i still like to jump and do wheelies with my sled,eventually when i get much older i'll consider a lawn tractor with electric start and saddlebags


No harm intended here to four strokers !!!

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Originally Posted by Imo000
Since I do all my repairs, I like realiblity therefore, 4 strokes are worth the extra weight to me.
Isn't 2 stroke technology much simpler than 4 stroke?

Everything else is the same as it's a sled. Other than the 500 lb chassis to hole the 500 lb motor.

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