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Old 08-29-2015, 12:00 PM
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996TT if you can swing it.
If you are truly going for all season daily driver, C4S. My dads is great in the winter. (He did the IMS "fix" as a precaution when he replaced the clutch).
I like the wide body 996 over the 996, but I like the interior and over drive and feel of the 997 (I've only driven the C4S mind you).
Again, for a daily in Toronto, all wheel drive is the way to go especially with those wide wide tires even in and around the city.
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Originally Posted by ezdriver
I would never buy the all-wheel-drive and think that I had a great winter car. If you want a serious/real winter car, then don't buy a 911 because they aren't winter cars.
What makes you say that? I drove my C4S for the first two winters and loved it. Not once did I regret it.
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C4S is a great daily
Old 08-31-2015, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by boman993
Huge thread on here. Also lots of talk about it online. Different alloy coating was used on the cylinders. Not sure of the exact science; but this is the gist..
Not totally true. Insider info: seeing up tp 2012's with scoring as well. Apparently, GT3 and Turbos seem to be immune so far.
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Originally Posted by pongobaz
Not totally true. Insider info: seeing up tp 2012's with scoring as well. Apparently, GT3 and Turbos seem to be immune so far.
I knew there would be some gray area in my statement. But, fact is there are far more reported cases in the earlier cars vs the 997.2. So if you're going to take a chance on a used watercooled Porsche out of warranty, the '09+ cars are a better bet. Or, Agreed, anything with a Mezger is really the way to go, however also hold a way higher cost of entry.

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Old 08-31-2015, 09:52 PM
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I've almost decided to go with 996 C4S contingent on PPI and reading warranty agreement.

Any opinions on replacing IMS and maybe clutch immediately as a precaution. Does the engine fail once the ims fails and requires a rebuild? What if you stop the car and get it towed?

Also the tires are from 2011, should that be a concern?

I thank you all for your informative responses
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If your PPI reveals that the clutch has issues, then yes by all means get it done and replace the IMSB while you're in there. But at 55K, the clutch should be far from used up if the car was driven by someone who knows how to drive.
You can also get an oil change right away and take apart the filter and look for metal particles (lots of threads on the 996 forum as to what the telltale signs are of a failing IMSB). Additionally, you can send a small oil sample to http://www.blackstone-labs.com to get an idea of the internal health of your engine.
Personally, I wouldn't drop $$ on an unnecessary clutch replacement just to replace the IMSB. My pressure plate went at 100K and while at it, I decided to replace the IMSB. Turned out the old one was in perfect condition...it now makes a lovely paperweight!

BTW: you're going to love the C4S!



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