Paul Walker / Roger Rodas widow suing Porsche
#2
Team Owner
Well you had to figure that was coming after the Banjamin Keaton case.
We live in a world of no accountability and litigation .. everything is someone elses fault and "i will get a lawyer so you have to pay" .
We live in a world of no accountability and litigation .. everything is someone elses fault and "i will get a lawyer so you have to pay" .
Last edited by theiceman; 05-13-2014 at 10:51 AM.
#3
Race Car
All of us are capable of driving like idiots whether it be a Porsche, a smart car or even a minivan
So if I speed and fail to negotiate a corner, crash my Smart car and kill myself or god forbid an innocent person, it's the car companies fault?
Sign me up then.
So if I speed and fail to negotiate a corner, crash my Smart car and kill myself or god forbid an innocent person, it's the car companies fault?
Sign me up then.
#5
Team Owner
i also thought i read somewher that rodas' compnay did extensive modifications to the car " warranty Void "
I agree this is going no where . When i rerad the article carguy posted it was asi thought , they are trying to piggyback the Keaton lawsuit and trying to use case law to get some coin ...
I agree this is going no where . When i rerad the article carguy posted it was asi thought , they are trying to piggyback the Keaton lawsuit and trying to use case law to get some coin ...
#6
Drifting
The problem is that they will sue everyone involved. The City, Porsche, passenger sues drivers estate, family of victims sue for loss of loved one and their comfort etc etc. etc. The cost of litigation can exceed the payout so the lawsuit is but a ploy for a settlement that generally doesn't get near 50 cents on the dollar asked in the suit. Winnable or not, companies and organizations throw the lawsuit paperwork onto the desks of their insurance companies who are the group that have to pay out in these cases - it is these people who have to settle or pay out and whom make the decisions in the case - not Porsche. Many times costs aren't awarded (unless the case is ridiculous or you pizz off the judge) even if you win - you loose. Going to court to rehash and reopen the old issues of an urban legend (evil handling) - of a car long out of production or cut a cheque for a % of what is asked? Its a math problem.
#7
i also thought i read somewher that rodas' compnay did extensive modifications to the car " warranty Void "
I agree this is going no where . When i rerad the article carguy posted it was asi thought , they are trying to piggyback the Keaton lawsuit and trying to use case law to get some coin ...
I agree this is going no where . When i rerad the article carguy posted it was asi thought , they are trying to piggyback the Keaton lawsuit and trying to use case law to get some coin ...
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#8
The problem is that they will sue everyone involved. The City, Porsche, passenger sues drivers estate, family of victims sue for loss of loved one and their comfort etc etc. etc. The cost of litigation can exceed the payout so the lawsuit is but a ploy for a settlement that generally doesn't get near 50 cents on the dollar asked in the suit. Winnable or not, companies and organizations throw the lawsuit paperwork onto the desks of their insurance companies who are the group that have to pay out in these cases - it is these people who have to settle or pay out and whom make the decisions in the case - not Porsche. Many times costs aren't awarded (unless the case is ridiculous or you pizz off the judge) even if you win - you loose. Going to court to rehash and reopen the old issues of an urban legend (evil handling) - of a car long out of production or cut a cheque for a % of what is asked? Its a math problem.
#10
Team Owner
Porsche was found partially responsible in the Keaton case . i think they payed out 5% of the setlement , cant remember exact figures.. It was quite a while ago but i think the finding was that Porsche could have made the vehicle far safer than they did as they had PSM technology. They consciously chose not to put it in the vehicle as part of a marketing decision as they were selling the car as a true sports car with no driver assists. That conscious decision made them partially responsible. Hopefully if someone knows more about the case they can clarify any errors I may have made.
#11
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Porsche was found partially responsible in the Keaton case . i think they payed out 5% of the setlement , cant remember exact figures.. It was quite a while ago but i think the finding was that Porsche could have made the vehicle far safer than they did as they had PSM technology. They consciously chose not to put it in the vehicle as part of a marketing decision as they were selling the car as a true sports car with no driver assists. That conscious decision made them partially responsible. Hopefully if someone knows more about the case they can clarify any errors I may have made.
#12
Drifting
#13
Captain Obvious
Super User
Super User
Not all companies pay out just because its cheaper than going to court. That's mostly an urban myth. They pay out if they feel they could be found liable to a certain %. Otherwise, most fight it based on principal.
#14
Race Car
This is my understanding as well. Years ago Allstate was McKinseyed and found settling was costing a fortune, so they started fighting everything. Profits rose. Tort lawyers' association bitched loudly to no avail.
#15
Rennlist Member
when you sue in civil, you only need to have possible fault not beyond reasonable doubt like in criminal case, so greater chance they will get something.