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yongster 04-26-2004 09:02 PM

Z06
 
Was that you passing my house in the grey GT3? If not, there is someone else with the same colour.

Z06 04-27-2004 10:56 PM

Yes, I always see your car parked in the driveway, i live near 7 Eleven, actually i live a few houses away from the coin car wash by 7 Eleven. I like to go threw the S corner near Brooke Ave, see how the car behaves.

I am considering the GT3 seats, how do you like them? When are you around i would like to check out the seats.

On Friday morning i have an appointment at DFC to install the B&M shifter, Evo shift link, alignment, BMC, ride height check and to get some kind of switch to deactivate the air bag, oh yah and install the MPSC.

yongster 04-28-2004 12:01 AM

Z06,

You are welcome to try the seats anytime. I also have an appointment on friday at DFC to fix my air conditioner. You should forget the alignment check at DFC because the car is too low for their machine. They hit my lip spoiler and partially pulled it off (PFAFF is going to check it next week).
I was at DFC on saturday and saw 4 MPSC. They must have been yours. Ask them to show you the new GT2 in the back with the CF wing (if you haven't seen it already).

Z06 04-28-2004 02:49 AM

maybe they should remove the spoiler before the alignment, thanks for the heads up, i will talk to them about it prior to the work done.

Those are my MPSC, getting the car ready for the first Solo 1 event at Shannoville.

What's wrong with your air conditioner?

I will be picking my car up around 5:30 to 6:pm on Friday.

delhi 04-28-2004 09:53 AM

well not sure if it's one of you, but i spotted a red GT3 on Avenue and Eglinton on Monday.
Also a yellow GT3 yesterday too. berry berry nice.

JLJ 04-28-2004 03:25 PM

do not get your GT3 aligned at the dealer..go to fiorano and they will do it right. the dealer will not do a proper job.
firano races GT3 cup cars and has tons of experience. i was there today talking to nick about my GT3 when it comes in and he has alot of advice about suspension tuning on GT3 and even modifying the LSD to work right.

yongster 04-28-2004 03:53 PM

Jason,

I'm just going to check the alignment under warranty to see if it's at factory spec. (since Howard Dexter and Dave Lacey told me the car handles a little weird). I'll take it to Fiorano's later in the summer (before I track it).

Z06,

If they remove the front spoiler, then they have to replace the double sided tape which helps to attach it to the bottom of the bumper. Since you are planning to race it, I would take Jason's advice and take it to Fiorano's.

My air conditioner isn't producing any cold air (compressor works but no cold air).:confused:

Z06 04-28-2004 05:02 PM

I have talked Fiorano about the GT3 and will try out the car as is first and then decide if and what to do.

I will let DFC re & re the front spoiler to do the alignment, they told me not to worry, they will guaranty the work, it should be fine.

As for alignment spec, what we came up with should work well, when i go to the track i will be able to find the setup that works best, using my Pyrometer and seeing the handling traits, from there i will decide/adjust sway bar settings as well.

Here is a link to CASC forums which is for local race/Solo 1-2 info plus lapping events.

http://racing.kos.net/soloforums/index.php?

mdex 04-28-2004 08:26 PM

You have to love Porsche, buy a GT3 and you have to redo the suspension to make it work properly. These cars are going to be really sensitive to set up, and I wouldn't trust the dealer to be able to make the fine adjustments needed. Chatting with the guys at Fiorano one Saturday it seems that it can take a few hours or more to set the alignment properly on the GT3.

Z06 04-28-2004 08:51 PM

I just don't get it............... who has tried a stock GT3 at the Track and said it did not work.......there are several people on the GT3 forum who have tracked there properly aligned and setup GT3 with no problems........if the car has a push or oversteer problem then you use the adjustable sway bars to dial it in......the front swaybar has a five way adjustment and the rear four........

Use your Pyrometer and dial in your camber as needed, no one setup works everywhere.

I am sure Fiorano has a great setup that can apply to the street GT3, but please do not dismiss the stock car.

I could be wrong, but i will wait until i have tested the car for myself.

As far as the dealer goes, i have talked to the mechanic at DFC who will be doing my setup and he seems capable and willing to do the job properly....

JLJ 04-28-2004 08:59 PM

Well ZO6 you can either listen or do what you think is right. I asked a dealer to do a GT3 spec alignment on my car and it came back with positive camber in the front which the dealer insisted was negative. GT3 come with inconsistent alignment from factory, will the dealer corner balance your car? No they won't, does the delear have years of GT3 experience like fiorano? No..take it to fiorano, or go to the dealer and have a badly setup car for every track and the street. Whatever you like

JLJ 04-28-2004 09:08 PM

Well ZO6 you can either listen or do what you think is right. I asked a dealer to do a GT3 spec alignment on my car and it came back with positive camber in the front which the dealer insisted was negative. GT3 come with inconsistent alignment from factory, will the dealer corner balance your car? No they won't, does the delear have years of GT3 experience like fiorano? No..take it to fiorano, or go to the dealer and have a badly setup car for every track and the street. Whatever you like

Alon 04-29-2004 09:01 AM

If it's going to be Courtney at DFC who is working on your car, you should be OK. He wrenches for Fiorano at the tracks and knows their setup. That said, you'll probably just get the stock settings alignment (which may give you enough camber and decent toe for the stock tires but not for the Sport Cups or Corsas).

mdex 04-29-2004 10:09 AM

Courtney is great, and he is probably the best in the city if you want to go to a dealer. I don't think that the GT3 is in any way a poor track car, but it is set up critical and from the cars I have seen at the track so far most of them are not set up properly from the factory.

yongster 04-29-2004 12:42 PM

JLJ,

Which dealer did your alignment? Just curious. Mike at PFAFF has been recommended to me , and I know Courtney at DFC.

JLJ 04-29-2004 12:50 PM


Originally posted by yongster
JLJ,

Which dealer did your alignment? Just curious. Mike at PFAFF has been recommended to me , and I know Courtney at DFC.

i dont want to insult a dealer online. it was a GTA area one. all im saying is the dealers have no experience with setting up GT3 or any cars beyond factory specs. and as we all know even factory specs arent working out well when these cars are delivered. why would you want a stock setting alignment?
beyond that i find that the dealers think the customers have no clue and wont set a car up the way you want or ask, they will refer to factory specs and not go deeper into asking you how you want the car to handle.
my fiorano alignments have been awesome, my dealer alignments have been useless and expensive

Z06 04-29-2004 01:43 PM

Courtney is the one i have been discussing my alignment with, he seems capable and will do as to the spec we have agreed on, i will expect a spec sheet after he is done.

JLJ 04-29-2004 08:51 PM


Originally posted by Z06
Courtney is the one i have been discussing my alignment with, he seems capable and will do as to the spec we have agreed on, i will expect a spec sheet after he is done.
my spec sheet when they botched my alignment was not given to me...alon asked to see it and they refused.

yongster 04-30-2004 02:05 PM

JLJ,

FYI, I know that you ordered a "bare-bones" GT3, but there is a white loaded GT3 for sale (new) for approx. mid 160K in town. The guy who is trying to sell it I think got it from PFAFF. Full leather, CF, PCCB and other unnecessary stuff.

Z06,

Saw your GT3 at DFC this am. How much weight are you saving by taking the valve caps off the wheels?:roflmao:

Z06 04-30-2004 02:09 PM

Yongster
Were they working on it?..........it would be nice if they finish it today....

Every little bit helps

yongster 04-30-2004 02:18 PM

I was there at 8 o'clock and your car was still parked in the back by the rear showroom. I mentioned to Courtney that you are having a lot of work done in one day, and he said he'd try to finish it by the end of the day, but wasn't sure.

JLJ 04-30-2004 02:21 PM

Figures

Z06 04-30-2004 02:40 PM

Yongster,

When are you picking your car up?

yongster 04-30-2004 03:07 PM

The car is supposed to be ready at 2:30, but I'll probably pick it up around 4 o'clock (got to take my son to soccer practice). If you are around on the weekend, drop by if you want to try the seats (or you can see it at the dealer).

JLJ 04-30-2004 06:05 PM


Originally posted by yongster
JLJ,

FYI, I know that you ordered a "bare-bones" GT3, but there is a white loaded GT3 for sale (new) for approx. mid 160K in town. The guy who is trying to sell it I think got it from PFAFF. Full leather, CF, PCCB and other unnecessary stuff.

Z06,

Saw your GT3 at DFC this am. How much weight are you saving by taking the valve caps off the wheels?:roflmao:

thanks but that doesnt interest me. who is selling it?

yongster 04-30-2004 09:06 PM

Z06,

Your car was ready when I picked up my car. How is the short shifter? (I guess you haven't tested out the suspension settings yet).

JLJ,

My car broker told me that the owner called to try and sell it to him (I don't think the car has been delivered yet). Also, a guy from the Porsche club bought a US GT3 and brought it over. I thought that wasn't possible.

JLJ 04-30-2004 09:10 PM


Originally posted by yongster
Z06,

Your car was ready when I picked up my car. How is the short shifter? (I guess you haven't tested out the suspension settings yet).

JLJ,

My car broker told me that the owner called to try and sell it to him (I don't think the car has been delivered yet). Also, a guy from the Porsche club bought a US GT3 and brought it over. I thought that wasn't possible.

apparently its totally possible as the car at segal was supposedly a US car. thanks for the info anyway. will we see each other at dexter may 7? im going to watkins glen also on may 15 16 17..not sure which day

Z06 05-01-2004 10:50 PM

All you need mechanically to import the GT3 is daylight running lights, there are a few steps to take but not that difficult, my car is a US model.

KLZ 05-03-2004 05:59 AM

from what I was being told by my salesman... there are 2 new GT3s ( 1 Blk & 1 white) @ Pfaff's basement; the people who ordered them are not willing to pick them up. The white 1 does have the PCCB & full leather and the Blk one's got steel brakes, CF shift knob and e-brake.

here are some pix I took...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...2/f932629c.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...e/f9326268.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...d/f93262d8.jpg

Z06 05-03-2004 01:03 PM

When i was looking for a GT3 Pfaff said they had a long waiting list for the GT3's and i ended up with a U.S. model

KLZ 05-03-2004 02:22 PM

just wonder what will they do with those GT3s, if those ppl are not picking them up?! I'm still waiting for mines from Pfaff:rolleyes:

Z06 05-03-2004 08:14 PM

Yongster sent you a private email

yongster 05-03-2004 09:44 PM

Z06,

Check personal message.

JLJ 05-03-2004 11:33 PM


Originally posted by yongster
Z06,

Check personal message.

unless you guys are telling each other how hot you each look in leather tank tops and bikini briefs maybe you could share the big secret?

JLJ 05-03-2004 11:33 PM


Originally posted by KLZ
just wonder what will they do with those GT3s, if those ppl are not picking them up?! I'm still waiting for mines from Pfaff:rolleyes:
they are selling them to other customers in line

yongster 05-03-2004 11:57 PM

Jason,

Just discussing dealer stuff without making it too public.

Not sure about Mosport on friday, but if I have enough of work by thurs., I'll show up and pay the extra $.

JLJ 05-04-2004 12:00 AM


Originally posted by yongster
Jason,

Just discussing dealer stuff without making it too public.

Not sure about Mosport on friday, but if I have enough of work by thurs., I'll show up and pay the extra $.

ok. hope to see you there. if not..i am renting the nelson circuit at shannonville on saturday may 8 for motorcycles and will have my car there too. if you come out at lunch you can do some laps for free


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