44 991.2 GT3s on autotrader?!
05-24-2019, 11:14 AM
#31
Burning Brakes
It's funny that you post this. We bought our 997 Turbo from Pfaff and had a great experience. Being younger (30) usually my wife and I get the cold shoulder but Lee at PFaff was awesome to deal with. Now my Dad is looking for a Macan/ Cayenne and Oakville is closer for us we went there, and by no means was it bad, we go to all the cars and coffee and other events they put on and they treat everyone like Gold, but when it came to buying a car it just felt like meh....we were just a number. My dad still hasn't singed on the dotted line yet so we will see where we end up going.
05-24-2019, 07:17 PM
#32
Drifting
I made the right choice for me at that time but it was a close decision at $50k difference....now at a $30k difference it would be more tempting but I still wouldn't like that $1k/month base cost just to keep the thing running under warranty. But I am COMPLETELY AWARE THAT THAT COST IS WORTH IT!!!!!!!
Now I want one again!!! Damn you!
05-25-2019, 01:27 AM
#33
I know! Rewind a year ago and I probably would have ended up in a 12C versus my GT4. Both cars value has come down but the difference between the two has been cut in half.....
I made the right choice for me at that time but it was a close decision at $50k difference....now at a $30k difference it would be more tempting but I still wouldn't like that $1k/month base cost just to keep the thing running under warranty. But I am COMPLETELY AWARE THAT THAT COST IS WORTH IT!!!!!!!
Now I want one again!!! Damn you!
I made the right choice for me at that time but it was a close decision at $50k difference....now at a $30k difference it would be more tempting but I still wouldn't like that $1k/month base cost just to keep the thing running under warranty. But I am COMPLETELY AWARE THAT THAT COST IS WORTH IT!!!!!!!
Now I want one again!!! Damn you!
Then the eta changed to next year, that's when I went shopping. As I mentioned earlier, I prefer the GT4 to the GT 3. Not sure if its the mid engine and the balance, or
the brilliance of the drive and the connection to the vehicle. My favourite Porsche is the 997 GT3 RS, and the cayman is really close. IMHO
The Mclaren is also mid engine, way more hp. but not as tactile. Small tradeoff to the big smile when you drive it.
The ride quality on the street is unbelievable, then turn the switch and it transforms into a track weapon!
Link to the final video from the 21st at Mosport and some great memories in the GT2.
Last edited by TurboS; 05-27-2019 at 01:03 AM.
06-18-2019, 05:38 PM
#34
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
well as an update, with summer in full swing, the number of GT3s for sale on AT has....gone up to 47. Including several below the 200k mark. I guess this is what they call a 'deflationary spiral' in economics - prices come down and people think they'll come down even more, so they sit on the sidelines instead of buying. Perhaps the Canadian consumer being at an all time high debt/income ratio also means less people able to finance.
Looks like the 991.1 GT3 RS has also come down a lot, incidentally - there are several that are below MSRP (<$210k).
Looks like the 991.1 GT3 RS has also come down a lot, incidentally - there are several that are below MSRP (<$210k).
Last edited by maroli; 06-18-2019 at 06:15 PM.
06-18-2019, 06:10 PM
#35
Rennlist Member
well as an update, with summer in full swing, the number of GT3s for sale on AT has....gone up to 47. Including several below the 200k mark. I guess this is what they call a 'deflationary spiral' in economics - prices come down and people think they'll come down even more, so they sit on the sidelines instead of buying. I guess the Canadian consumer being at an all time high debt/income ratio also means less people able to finance.
Looks like the 991.1 GT3 RS has also come down a lot, incidentally - there are several that are below MSRP (<$210k).
Looks like the 991.1 GT3 RS has also come down a lot, incidentally - there are several that are below MSRP (<$210k).
06-18-2019, 06:25 PM
#36
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Looking at some AT posts where they mention what the dealer initially tried to list the car at, some were $60k over MSRP! Now they're making a negative margin with having to cut prices. Serves them right - although I have them to thank for declining to buy a GT3 in 2015 and buying a condo instead. One would've lost a lot of money now that the bubble has popped, and the other made a lot (although maybe that's a bubble too!).
06-22-2019, 11:27 PM
#37
Rennlist Member
They made close to 50% more cars this time around as well compared to the 99.1- I agree that it was very greedy for the dealerships to sell to 'favoured' customers at MSRP, and who never intended to keep the car to begin with. They then buy it back at a steep markup and sell it at an even steeper markup.
Looking at some AT posts where they mention what the dealer initially tried to list the car at, some were $60k over MSRP! Now they're making a negative margin with having to cut prices. Serves them right - although I have them to thank for declining to buy a GT3 in 2015 and buying a condo instead. One would've lost a lot of money now that the bubble has popped, and the other made a lot (although maybe that's a bubble too!).
Looking at some AT posts where they mention what the dealer initially tried to list the car at, some were $60k over MSRP! Now they're making a negative margin with having to cut prices. Serves them right - although I have them to thank for declining to buy a GT3 in 2015 and buying a condo instead. One would've lost a lot of money now that the bubble has popped, and the other made a lot (although maybe that's a bubble too!).
06-22-2019, 11:34 PM
#38
Do you honestly think the dealers bought back GT3s at "a steep markup"? ...lol. they made buyers sign that the dealers get first right to buy car back at what they determine is market price...lol. and after prepaying for service, full car 3m clear bra treatment and a few other things.
Shall we play this game?
06-23-2019, 12:59 AM
#39
Rennlist Member
I also suspect the dealers are instructed from above to get as many asses in the seats as they can.
When I was in LA last summer the local McLaren dealership gave me a 570s for two days, no questions asked. In fact, they solicited me to take the car despite me informing them I had no interest in buying a Mclaren.
Same thing happened this year when I was chatting with someone (who turned out to be the manager of the local Mclaren store) driving a 600LT at a cars and coffee event . "Come by later today and take the car." Hugely overrated car btw.
Meanwhile, I doubt the local Porsche dealer would even let me test drive a GT3. Not that I would ever want to subject myself to the pain of going to or dealing with a Porsche dealer unless I absolutely had to.
When I was in LA last summer the local McLaren dealership gave me a 570s for two days, no questions asked. In fact, they solicited me to take the car despite me informing them I had no interest in buying a Mclaren.
Same thing happened this year when I was chatting with someone (who turned out to be the manager of the local Mclaren store) driving a 600LT at a cars and coffee event . "Come by later today and take the car." Hugely overrated car btw.
Meanwhile, I doubt the local Porsche dealer would even let me test drive a GT3. Not that I would ever want to subject myself to the pain of going to or dealing with a Porsche dealer unless I absolutely had to.
I am curious—in what way did you find the 600LT overrated? Just not good value compared to the 570S?
06-24-2019, 02:26 AM
#40
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Do you honestly think the dealers bought back GT3s at "a steep markup"? ...lol. they made buyers sign that the dealers get first right to buy car back at what they determine is market price...lol. and after prepaying for service, full car 3m clear bra treatment and a few other things.
06-24-2019, 12:20 PM
#41
Burning Brakes
I tend to agree with this, the problem is now those cars are sitting on lots and have lost a lot of their exclusivity. I thought GT and GTRS cars were supposed to be rare, now the market is flooded. I'm glad flippers lost out though. I've heard of too many people being swindled out of their allocations in order to let ''friends of the dealership'' buy cars. These things should be first come first serve, unfortunately that's not how the world works. have you seen the GT2RS's out there advertised for over 600k? ridiculous.
