Chris Harris Vid..the new 992
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#18
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Sorry to say this, but base 911s (and I know this is an S, but still) should be compared to base models of other cars. When we look at the 992 in this frame of reference, its probably brilliant. Remember that many of us are coming off of reviews from the newest GT RS cars, and other turbos, not to mention announcements from Detroit about 700+HP muscle cars. This past year has been crazy with higher performance supercars, Hypercars...
So again, the base 992 seems like one hell of a nice basic 911. And Ill watch anything Chris puts out.
So again, the base 992 seems like one hell of a nice basic 911. And Ill watch anything Chris puts out.
#19
Race Car
I agree and that's why I bought a Carrera T. Honestly if anyone is seriously looking at a 992, go and try to find a Carrera T if you can. Simply superb. I and other ex or current GT3 owners love it... brilliant as a daily with way more useable torque.
#20
Rennlist Member
I'm waiting on a PTS 911T allocation...might happen...
#22
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The main demographic for this car has no need or desire to open the engine cover. So lets save a couple of bucks and not make it visable. High fives, pats on the back, and bonuses in the board room. There may be a conscious effort to get people use to the idea of no visiable engine, so when they fully electrify the 911 line it might not be such a big deal.
Last edited by red996; 01-23-2019 at 08:34 PM.
#23
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There is a small percentage that owns a 991 or 992 that enjoy DIYs and prefer to have the job done "right". I have a lift, rebuild starters, alternators and dual distributors. The 991 folder has a 4 page thread discussing how to charge a battery while stored. Clearly few have an understanding of electronics.
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The main demographic for this car has no need or desire to open the engine cover. So lets save a couple of bucks and not make it visable. High fives, pats on the back, and bonuses in the board room. There may be a conscious effort to get people use to the idea of no visiable engine, so when they fully electrify the 911 line it might no be such a big deal.
#25
Racer
Exactly! The car is likely designed by "millennials". Hell, it has no dipstick.
There is a small percentage that owns a 991 or 992 that enjoy DIYs and prefer to have the job done "right". I have a lift, rebuild starters, alternators and dual distributors. The 991 folder has a 4 page thread discussing how to charge a battery while stored. Clearly few have an understanding of electronics.
There is a small percentage that owns a 991 or 992 that enjoy DIYs and prefer to have the job done "right". I have a lift, rebuild starters, alternators and dual distributors. The 991 folder has a 4 page thread discussing how to charge a battery while stored. Clearly few have an understanding of electronics.
On the other hand, have you seen the back end of the 992? The cut-away photos are nuts. I'm an engineer working for a tier 1 automotive powertrain supplier, and we're constantly forced with packaging challenges by our customer. What Porsche has done in the engine bay is pretty remarkable, there's not a mm of wasted space! To package all that equipment & tech while maintaining the classic 911 profile will mean some sacrifices.
And I'm a millennial! We're not all like that I enjoy wrenching on my Porsche & BMW, and a lot of the guys in my age group at our company our genuine car guys. I changed my coolant reservoir tank on the 997 last summer and it involved a lot of cursing towards the German engineers responsible for the packaging of that - can't imagine what a job like that would be on a 991. The 997 is downright spacious compared to this.
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Racer
#29
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And on my 991, you can't check the oil level on the display till the oil reaches 80C. You have to measure what came out, add the same amount and add a bit if you were down a segment.
#30
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Thread Starter
Things change and what was once necessary no longer is. We dont need starting handles. I do not get that deep thrill of a mechanical key, nor do I need a dipstick whose only function is to provide information. I can get it from the dash. I do keep a tire pressure gauge but only use it if I am doing something challenging.
I have no spare tire on some cars. I still keep a manual car but I am not about to play around with an old Mezger engine that powers it.
i do recognize that people legitimately may like to work on their cars. I have also met people in the US who like to handload their own ammunition. Fair enough.
I have no idea if the 992 is the greatest Porsche but it is right for the market I think. Given the amazing survival rate of the cars there is a car for every interest and if you want to drive a Gmünd split window, why not?
have no nostalgia. Has. 911S in 1975,well used and a variety of more recent stuff. No doubt I will have some edgier 992 later in the lifecycle. I find the changes fascinating.
I have no spare tire on some cars. I still keep a manual car but I am not about to play around with an old Mezger engine that powers it.
i do recognize that people legitimately may like to work on their cars. I have also met people in the US who like to handload their own ammunition. Fair enough.
I have no idea if the 992 is the greatest Porsche but it is right for the market I think. Given the amazing survival rate of the cars there is a car for every interest and if you want to drive a Gmünd split window, why not?
have no nostalgia. Has. 911S in 1975,well used and a variety of more recent stuff. No doubt I will have some edgier 992 later in the lifecycle. I find the changes fascinating.