AUDI R8 RWS - Imminent Depreciation?
07-23-2018, 12:26 PM
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To be fair to the R8 driver may have been "lesser". I was inquiring about trading in my car for an R8. I just couldn't pull the trigger. I am sure I would have had buyers remorse. My Porsche SA priced out the R8 for me but he also thought I would have buyers remorse. I think I made the right decision but the R8 is certainly a beautiful machine.
07-23-2018, 01:17 PM
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I love the R8s and would be very lucky to own one one day. The RWS came close but the GT4 seems like it was made specifically for me, was $35k less and, importantly, the timing of the RWS delivery made it a 25% tax car in BC versus the GT4 that I was able to make a 15% tax car. I felt that the GT4 was likely to hold more of the after tax value.....but it wasn't only my head saying GT4, in this case my heart was too. I cant wait to see one of these RWS' up close - I hope someone I know buys one so I can get a ride!
07-23-2018, 04:01 PM
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You know, for a guy with no pictures or posts of a v10 plus, or even pictures of your...cough...2 huracans in anywhere except for one in a business garage, and a 911 on a car lot. yet 2 posts slaming the R8 s depreciation.....I call utter and complete BS. Basically lost credibility to me at least that you even own a sportscar....maybe you install film on nice cars for a living.
dude....the rws is 163k msrp canadian. You really think its going to sell in two yeas fir 120k? I know the used ones currently are 187 to 192k and the rest are sold out. So what made you so butt hurt over the pretend v10 plus? Or was it the lambo that depreciated like a rock? Different car. Paying the lambo tax new is just the price you pay to get less car for more dollars on a rwd lambo 580.
dude....the rws is 163k msrp canadian. You really think its going to sell in two yeas fir 120k? I know the used ones currently are 187 to 192k and the rest are sold out. So what made you so butt hurt over the pretend v10 plus? Or was it the lambo that depreciated like a rock? Different car. Paying the lambo tax new is just the price you pay to get less car for more dollars on a rwd lambo 580.
There is nothing special about this car, hell Audi UK gave Youtuber SOL a free, yes a FREE RWS spyder to drive around for an entire year. I didn't know manufactures gave out special edition cars to YT'bers to drive around for free? And the cars listed on AT were listed much higher and the sellers have gradually dropped the price. In the US they're selling for MSRP. I'll bump this thread in 2 years and we'll see where the prices are at.
07-23-2018, 04:15 PM
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That's the advice I was given. I was told by many that the R8 would depreciate so fast that in a few years my 911 would be worth more than the initially more expensive R8. Still, it is a lovey car.
07-23-2018, 04:22 PM
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But the 5 series , especially the RS5 is simply a gorgeous machine, along with the 7s and the R-8
07-23-2018, 04:28 PM
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I found a brand new unsold RWS version at a dealer back in April. I made them an offer (below MSRP) and they initially said no. They emailed me on and off for the next several weeks and finally called me and agreed to my number more than a month later. They were going to call me back in an hour to firm up the delivery date and I was in the middle of arranging PPF and ceramic coating when the sales manager sold it to a walk in at full MSRP.
I'm happy now that I didn't go through with it. There really isn't anything special about these cars that would make them appreciate. Personally I would rather take a depreciated R8 V10 plus and get all the carbon bits and standard ceramics.
I'm happy now that I didn't go through with it. There really isn't anything special about these cars that would make them appreciate. Personally I would rather take a depreciated R8 V10 plus and get all the carbon bits and standard ceramics.
07-23-2018, 06:45 PM
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I didnt buy mine because it was limited. I bought it because it was available and a good price. I dont buy used, and R8s are hard to find new in Canada right now. Used ones are crazy priced because the US market is scooping them up due to the exchange rate. So you pay way too much for a used R8, or hope to find a relitively cheap new one. I got lucky.
There are people out there not picking a GT3. Even magazines that only picked the gt3 for track purposes in shootouts. If I was in my 20’s Id get the Porsche and drive it daily on the street with a second set if rubber for track days. By 30 its just not the right machine for me anymore, or by 40, or by 50. Lucky for me, by the time I could pay cash for a Lambo, I had grown out of wanting one. Nobody keeps a Lambo for 7 years eh? Lots keep other sportscars that long though. There is a reason for that.
There are people out there not picking a GT3. Even magazines that only picked the gt3 for track purposes in shootouts. If I was in my 20’s Id get the Porsche and drive it daily on the street with a second set if rubber for track days. By 30 its just not the right machine for me anymore, or by 40, or by 50. Lucky for me, by the time I could pay cash for a Lambo, I had grown out of wanting one. Nobody keeps a Lambo for 7 years eh? Lots keep other sportscars that long though. There is a reason for that.
07-23-2018, 10:31 PM
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There's 50+ 2017+ R8's listed in Canada atm and this doesn't include the ones floating around at auctions.
Don't get me wrong, the R8 gen 2 has amazing performance and has exotic looks at a great price point if buying used but I don't think it has the same appeal as the gen 1 R8.
Don't get me wrong, the R8 gen 2 has amazing performance and has exotic looks at a great price point if buying used but I don't think it has the same appeal as the gen 1 R8.
07-23-2018, 11:02 PM
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Which is why I would not buy a McLaren. I'll gladly take their favourable lease rates (better than Porsche) and high residuals (similar to GT3), drive the car and not worry about the depreciation. In 3 years they can have it back and if they are able to sell it at what the buy-out amount is, good for them, but I'm skeptical.
07-23-2018, 11:16 PM
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07-24-2018, 12:37 AM
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There's nothing really special about this R8 imo. Slapping on a limited edition badge doesn't mean it will go up in value, instead I see the RWS dropping in value. The new R8 in general has been a failure and trust me I learned the hard way when I had to sell my V10 plus. I'd rather buy a gen 1 R8 preferably a 6 speed which will probably go up in value way before the gen 2 goes up.
But anyway, I'm discussing this to just share my thoughts with those who care. For me depreciation is not a factor - otherwise, I would not have bought a new 911 Turbo S or Cayenne Turbo.
07-26-2018, 07:35 PM
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Found the one guy in the world. Lol. Quoted from r8talk.
As for why I prefer it to the GT3... It's just a much better street car. The GT3 is an amazing car but really it's a track car. It is the most precise and sharp feeling car (excluding full race cars) I've ever driven. But for me it's just too much on the street. It wasn't enjoyable every day. The motor really has to be rung out to get power, the carbon buckets are non adjustable. The big wing screams race car all day every day. Really the only thing I miss about it is the manual gear box. The R8 sounds equally as good (though in a different way), it's much more compliant, more comfortable, better tech, etc. Its comparing apples to oranges but for me oranges are better tasting
There are 3 more guys on rennlist that traded in their 911s. Maybe in the future some may trade the rws in for a 911, but I dont think many will. More likely it will be for a less track oriented car again.
As for why I prefer it to the GT3... It's just a much better street car. The GT3 is an amazing car but really it's a track car. It is the most precise and sharp feeling car (excluding full race cars) I've ever driven. But for me it's just too much on the street. It wasn't enjoyable every day. The motor really has to be rung out to get power, the carbon buckets are non adjustable. The big wing screams race car all day every day. Really the only thing I miss about it is the manual gear box. The R8 sounds equally as good (though in a different way), it's much more compliant, more comfortable, better tech, etc. Its comparing apples to oranges but for me oranges are better tasting
There are 3 more guys on rennlist that traded in their 911s. Maybe in the future some may trade the rws in for a 911, but I dont think many will. More likely it will be for a less track oriented car again.
07-26-2018, 07:42 PM
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996 GT3, now that was a track car!
Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about but I view all the modern GT3s as comfy street cars that are wicked fast on the track.
Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about but I view all the modern GT3s as comfy street cars that are wicked fast on the track.
07-26-2018, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis.E
Found the one guy in the world. Lol. Quoted from r8talk.
As for why I prefer it to the GT3... It's just a much better street car. The GT3 is an amazing car but really it's a track car. It is the most precise and sharp feeling car (excluding full race cars) I've ever driven. But for me it's just too much on the street. It wasn't enjoyable every day. The motor really has to be rung out to get power, the carbon buckets are non adjustable. The big wing screams race car all day every day. Really the only thing I miss about it is the manual gear box. The R8 sounds equally as good (though in a different way), it's much more compliant, more comfortable, better tech, etc. Its comparing apples to oranges but for me oranges are better tasting
There are 3 more guys on rennlist that traded in their 911s. Maybe in the future some may trade the rws in for a 911, but I dont think many will. More likely it will be for a less track oriented car again.
As for why I prefer it to the GT3... It's just a much better street car. The GT3 is an amazing car but really it's a track car. It is the most precise and sharp feeling car (excluding full race cars) I've ever driven. But for me it's just too much on the street. It wasn't enjoyable every day. The motor really has to be rung out to get power, the carbon buckets are non adjustable. The big wing screams race car all day every day. Really the only thing I miss about it is the manual gear box. The R8 sounds equally as good (though in a different way), it's much more compliant, more comfortable, better tech, etc. Its comparing apples to oranges but for me oranges are better tasting
There are 3 more guys on rennlist that traded in their 911s. Maybe in the future some may trade the rws in for a 911, but I dont think many will. More likely it will be for a less track oriented car again.
The 911 is far and away one if the most iconic sports cars ever built.
Audi have a long way to get there in reputation snd sales.
But i do appreciate the audi profit contribution to VW group so Porsche can still fund great machines.
i think people are growing tired of your valiant but fruitless flag waving. Time to move on
