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Old 03-03-2018, 04:48 AM
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Missed out on a couple of cars because I took a day to sort PPI and wanted a look at service history while someone rocked up and bought it instead. Now I know these cars are reliable but would you risk buying after just looking over it yourself and skipping PPI or even doing it after purchase and thinking there will only be maybe minor stuff to fix.
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Originally Posted by aventino68 View Post
Missed out on a couple of cars because I took a day to sort PPI and wanted a look at service history while someone rocked up and bought it instead. Now I know these cars are reliable but would you risk buying after just looking over it yourself and skipping PPI or even doing it after purchase and thinking there will only be maybe minor stuff to fix.
Nope. 1. Carproof 2. Paint meter 3. PPI. Make a refundable deposit if conditions not as represented. Porsche Oakville even stated on invoice they guaranteed car had no repainting when I bought my RS (at my request - I was previously lied to regarding repainting of 993tt by private party seller and did not discover until later).

You missing out so far just means a better car is coming up for you

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Old 03-03-2018, 09:15 AM
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Never buy a car without PPI or buy a new car.
Make a deal conditional to a PPI (with a serious and experienced Porsche mechanic...)
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While the 997TT is a reliable platform, you certainly still want to have a PPI completed. You may also consider paying a few dollars extra and having the coolant pipe fittings inspected via boroscope as part of the PPI - that's what I did when I bought mine. You're looking for dried coolant or evidence of a leak at any of the fittings.

I know the 997TT market is frustrating in Canada - way more buyers than there are good cars. When a good 6MT coupe comes up, they are gone quick. The ones sitting are the cars with stories or are in poor condition even to the untrained eye. As suggested, if you like a car then make a fair (ie asking price) offer conditional on PPI, and get on with the PPI as soon as possible.
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While the 997TT is a reliable platform, you certainly still want to have a PPI completed. You may also consider paying a few dollars extra and having the coolant pipe fittings inspected via boroscope as part of the PPI - that's what I did when I bought mine. You're looking for dried coolant or evidence of a leak at any of the fittings.

I know the 997TT market is frustrating in Canada - way more buyers than there are good cars. When a good 6MT coupe comes up, they are gone quick. The ones sitting are the cars with stories or are in poor condition even to the untrained eye. As suggested, if you like a car then make a fair (ie asking price) offer conditional on PPI, and get on with the PPI as soon as possible.
... good point re market. Even with exchange rate, often worth a look on the US market - 10 times the choice, can search dry/salt free regions. 6.1% duty. Process at www.riv.ca
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Thanks all, just thought it was me being overly cautious. Iíll start looking in the US as well, they seem pretty bulletproof from reading the forum so Iím happy with 60000miles/100,000km cars. The debates on rennlist regarding 997.1 vs 997.2 cars are amusing, is there an obvious reason why so few 997.2 turbo were made that Iím missing?
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The 997.2 was launched at the beginning of the global financial crisis was it not? That would likely explain the production slump.
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Originally Posted by Pags993 View Post
The 997.2 was launched at the beginning of the global financial crisis was it not? That would likely explain the production slump.
thats correct, low production numbers for both 997/987.2
And i would only buy with a proper PPI.
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@aventino68: Totally agree with the opinions voiced here - PPI is crucial from someone who knows these cars inside and out. Especially for a 997.1 TT. They have issues with coolant pipes and turbo oil leaks that need an expert opinion.
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There's an interesting one near the top of market place right now.
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The seller/dealer would offer, "to the best of their knowledge" sales tactic.
Well that is just fine and dandy.
But if they never look, or investigate? Then they are not lying!
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^can never guarantee a used car is perfect(nor a new car FWIW), nor can you find all its flaws... it's not necessarily a dealer 'cover-up' tactic, dealer has to be smart with what they are selling... consumer protection rules are pretty extreme against dealers....
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I wouldn't.

I bought my then three year old 996 GT3 in Chicago through a broker with 980 miles on it. Still paid for a full PPI.
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For me, it comes down to risk factor. I usually research the known issues and look at what the cost is to recitify them if they come up. If I am willing to risk the $$, then I go without PPI. In saying that, I have never purchased a car sight unseen and I am pretty good at picking out flaws, previous paintwork, engine noises etc. I always ask for a history report and any service records if the PO has them.
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Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer View Post
For me, it comes down to risk factor. I usually research the known issues and look at what the cost is to recitify them if they come up. If I am willing to risk the $$, then I go without PPI. In saying that, I have never purchased a car sight unseen and I am pretty good at picking out flaws, previous paintwork, engine noises etc. I always ask for a history report and any service records if the PO has them.
Me too. But the price has to be right.
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