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OMG, agree soooo cute. Where did those good looks come from :-P
(My comment came from John's mag cover subtitle on the GT4)
David, enjoyed those videos. Pretty amazing footwork in the rally car with all that LF braking.
I've been practicing LF braking for a long time now thanks to Graeme's encouragement but on rare occasions the brain gets lost and I go to change gear and use the brake instead of the clutch which gives you a hell of a fright and ain't pretty. Lots of practice on spirited B road drives 1/3rd into the corner to get weight on the front for turn in. I'd actually like to get some assessment and more learning about this technique.
Anyone else comment about LFB and how they use it?
(My comment came from John's mag cover subtitle on the GT4)
David, enjoyed those videos. Pretty amazing footwork in the rally car with all that LF braking.
I've been practicing LF braking for a long time now thanks to Graeme's encouragement but on rare occasions the brain gets lost and I go to change gear and use the brake instead of the clutch which gives you a hell of a fright and ain't pretty. Lots of practice on spirited B road drives 1/3rd into the corner to get weight on the front for turn in. I'd actually like to get some assessment and more learning about this technique.
Anyone else comment about LFB and how they use it?
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On Gran Turismo with the G27 pedal set I LFB with ease, using the inside of my right foot as a guide to make sure I am hitting the brake.
In the real world I find it's a lot more difficult, even on the R, which only has two pedals. I just can't seem to modulate the braking force, it's all or nothing. I think it will take a long time to get this right.
In the real world I find it's a lot more difficult, even on the R, which only has two pedals. I just can't seem to modulate the braking force, it's all or nothing. I think it will take a long time to get this right.
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OMG, agree soooo cute. Where did those good looks come from :-P (My comment came from John's mag cover subtitle on the GT4) David, enjoyed those videos. Pretty amazing footwork in the rally car with all that LF braking. I've been practicing LF braking for a long time now thanks to Graeme's encouragement but on rare occasions the brain gets lost and I go to change gear and use the brake instead of the clutch which gives you a hell of a fright and ain't pretty. Lots of practice on spirited B road drives 1/3rd into the corner to get weight on the front for turn in. I'd actually like to get some assessment and more learning about this technique. Anyone else comment about LFB and how they use it?
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I spent a ton of time playing Gran Turismo on PS2 in my youth, and always braked with my left foot, which meant it felt normal carrying over to driving a two pedal car. I would have to force myself to use my right these days. Don't let me behind the wheel of your three pedal cars!!
Nice photos Doug. Dawn of the Dead indeed!
My eBay front lip came to an untimely end thanks to me overcooking my garage entrance. Luckily I bought two. Not looking forward to sanding the second one...
Nice photos Doug. Dawn of the Dead indeed!
My eBay front lip came to an untimely end thanks to me overcooking my garage entrance. Luckily I bought two. Not looking forward to sanding the second one...
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I spent a ton of time playing Gran Turismo on PS2 in my youth, and always braked with my left foot, which meant it felt normal carrying over to driving a two pedal car. I would have to force myself to use my right these days. Don't let me behind the wheel of your three pedal cars!! Nice photos Doug. Dawn of the Dead indeed! My eBay front lip came to an untimely end thanks to me overcooking my garage entrance. Luckily I bought two. Not looking forward to sanding the second one...
Sorry about your lip. I had a new one fitted as a birthday for the Gt3 before I left and straight after a detail then promptly scraped it underneath going up the driveway (happens 9 out of 10 times). I now have the old one to play with and have some plastic dip so will experiment with cosmetically sprucing it up next time I'm back. They are $160 USD in the states but over $400 pacific Swiss francs in gods own!!
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OMG, agree soooo cute. Where did those good looks come from :-P
(My comment came from John's mag cover subtitle on the GT4)
David, enjoyed those videos. Pretty amazing footwork in the rally car with all that LF braking.
I've been practicing LF braking for a long time now thanks to Graeme's encouragement but on rare occasions the brain gets lost and I go to change gear and use the brake instead of the clutch which gives you a hell of a fright and ain't pretty. Lots of practice on spirited B road drives 1/3rd into the corner to get weight on the front for turn in. I'd actually like to get some assessment and more learning about this technique.
Anyone else comment about LFB and how they use it?
(My comment came from John's mag cover subtitle on the GT4)
David, enjoyed those videos. Pretty amazing footwork in the rally car with all that LF braking.
I've been practicing LF braking for a long time now thanks to Graeme's encouragement but on rare occasions the brain gets lost and I go to change gear and use the brake instead of the clutch which gives you a hell of a fright and ain't pretty. Lots of practice on spirited B road drives 1/3rd into the corner to get weight on the front for turn in. I'd actually like to get some assessment and more learning about this technique.
Anyone else comment about LFB and how they use it?
1) If you don't lift gas until LF brake is on there is less time loss.
2) the hydraulics get primed and the pads/rotors heated just before the harder braking.
Left foot braking (with heel and toe)
(My comment came from John's mag cover subtitle on the GT4)
They're just suggesting you sell the kids if getting a Cayman because you're two seats down on a 911.
David, enjoyed those videos. Pretty amazing footwork in the rally car with all that LF braking.
I've been practicing LF braking for a long time now thanks to Graeme's encouragement but on rare occasions the brain gets lost and I go to change gear and use the brake instead of the clutch which gives you a hell of a fright and ain't pretty. Lots of practice on spirited B road drives 1/3rd into the corner to get weight on the front for turn in. I'd actually like to get some assessment and more learning about this technique.
Anyone else comment about LFB and how they use it?
They're just suggesting you sell the kids if getting a Cayman because you're two seats down on a 911.
David, enjoyed those videos. Pretty amazing footwork in the rally car with all that LF braking.
I've been practicing LF braking for a long time now thanks to Graeme's encouragement but on rare occasions the brain gets lost and I go to change gear and use the brake instead of the clutch which gives you a hell of a fright and ain't pretty. Lots of practice on spirited B road drives 1/3rd into the corner to get weight on the front for turn in. I'd actually like to get some assessment and more learning about this technique.
Anyone else comment about LFB and how they use it?
Now I probably learned it the easy way initially as it was in a two pedal automatic 928. DSGs, PDKs, robotised manuals etc should be just as easy to learn on too these days. Even in the 928 I wasn't trying to do it at 9 or 10 tenths for the first week or so.
Last year though I learned to combine it with heel and toeing a manual in our Black Beauty Integra. Got it down reasonably now but like most things there's still plenty of room to get smoother and faster. Turn 1 at Hampton is probably the trickiest because the stakes are highest there but I've taken it at least 100 times now fully LFBing BB/BB2/The Grinch without incident.
It's a lot easier to LFB only after changing down of course but for many corners - especially the ones off the main straights - I LFB on the straight, transition to the right foot while looking to maintain the same rate of pressure change on the brake pedal, then heel and toe the down change while declutching with the freed up left, then swap the left foot back onto the brake pedal again, with the right going back over to the accelerator ready to roll on power for exit, beginning a moment before the left foot finishes releasing the brake.
I don't have a shot of it from Hampton Downs but here's one from the wet round at Taupo to illustrate. As said, I'm still working on making it smoother.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2sxa35_full-left-foot-braking-with-heel-and-toe-example-short-clip-from-wet-2kcup-race-in-taupo-april-2015_auto
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Although I am not tracking my car, I have been LFB for years now. I even drive our Subaru and Honda LFB. I do admit when I drive a manual car I have been caught out, and it is not pretty! (Be careful riding my bikes, the levers are european setup).
The 993 Tip with timing you can blip the throttle, left foot brake, and match the gear change (manual mode). Guess the 991 takes care of that for you.
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The 993 Tip with timing you can blip the throttle, left foot brake, and match the gear change (manual mode). Guess the 991 takes care of that for you.
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Great to hear about everyones experiences with LFB. Graeme learned from his karting but I've found driving manuals all the time and making heel and toe normal driving practice makes perfect for that but I've only been LFB when on spirited drives and a little on track.
One of the reasons I LFB in my manuals on fast b roads is to corner safer and quicker. With power on in the corner if the front is going a little wide a short light tap on the brakes with the LF puts a little more weight forward and the front turns in but you haven't upset the balance by releasing power. Its especially useful if you find yourself in a tightening corner you hadn't anticipated.
I haven't had the guts to use it as my main braking method on T1 at HD though. Thats possibly for the future.
Impressed talking with Chris M last night about all the work he's been doing on his C4S. I wish I was as cleaver.
One of the reasons I LFB in my manuals on fast b roads is to corner safer and quicker. With power on in the corner if the front is going a little wide a short light tap on the brakes with the LF puts a little more weight forward and the front turns in but you haven't upset the balance by releasing power. Its especially useful if you find yourself in a tightening corner you hadn't anticipated.
I haven't had the guts to use it as my main braking method on T1 at HD though. Thats possibly for the future.
Impressed talking with Chris M last night about all the work he's been doing on his C4S. I wish I was as cleaver.
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Interesting that the traditional RL app works on this ipad mini but not my main ipad or iphone. The IB app works on my main ipad but not my iphone.
The photos are on my iphone but cant be posted from there using the smartphone version of the site because it doesnt have the feature, except through the main (non smartphone) website which is soooo painful on a smartphone.
What a fricking mess for a paid service.
Anyone got any solutions to being effective with posting photos while out and about from an iphone to RL without using the main website? 2016 and a year+ of these issues, this is bloody stupid IMO. If the community wasn't here Id have walked long ago.
End of rant
The photos are on my iphone but cant be posted from there using the smartphone version of the site because it doesnt have the feature, except through the main (non smartphone) website which is soooo painful on a smartphone.
What a fricking mess for a paid service.
Anyone got any solutions to being effective with posting photos while out and about from an iphone to RL without using the main website? 2016 and a year+ of these issues, this is bloody stupid IMO. If the community wasn't here Id have walked long ago.
End of rant