What Loud Squealing Cold Pagid Yellow Racing Brake Pads Sound Like (Cayman)
07-16-2017, 04:06 AM
#61
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if you want a near fool proof technique to bed them, PM me and ill send it over. cookng them in a DE, wont really do it.
07-16-2017, 02:38 PM
#63
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its pretty funny... i just replaced both sets of pads and used the traditional way, or problmatic way (rears had a cracked rotor so i needed to put on new rotors with old pads) , first and ended up with very noisy set ups .... Then, after, used my process and they are both silent. (the rears are more challenging, for many reasons.)
Let me know if you want to know the process.
07-16-2017, 05:39 PM
#64
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I think one of my problems is that I occasionally commute with my car; an average speed of 17mph likely doesn't heat up the brakes enough.
I attached an image of my brake pads after I cooked them, likely due to too short cool down lap. Expensive mistake; lessons learned.
07-16-2017, 07:23 PM
#65
I've ran PFC08's and PFC11's on OEM and Girodisc rotors (without using the OEM vibration dampers) - they always squealed like a banshee on the street between track days. This year I actually tried using Girodisc titanium shims hoping to keep some heat away from the piston seals but as an unexpected surprise the PFC11 pads were silent on the street and track. I can't say this is definitive but it seems like the shims act similarly to the OEM vibration dampers that usually attach to the pistons.
Anyone else have experience with shims?
Anyone else have experience with shims?
07-18-2017, 12:47 AM
#66
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PM sent :-).
I think one of my problems is that I occasionally commute with my car; an average speed of 17mph likely doesn't heat up the brakes enough.
I attached an image of my brake pads after I cooked them, likely due to too short cool down lap. Expensive mistake; lessons learned.
I think one of my problems is that I occasionally commute with my car; an average speed of 17mph likely doesn't heat up the brakes enough.
I attached an image of my brake pads after I cooked them, likely due to too short cool down lap. Expensive mistake; lessons learned.
my beddling technique will completely eliminate the noise. they will never squeal, even on the street for extended periods. ive been doing this for 20 years now.
12-14-2023, 09:24 AM
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Brake Squeal
There are too many people here without near the experience, even "pros" that dont fully understand the bedding process. I dont want to start a flame war, so i have been suggesting the process privately............about 20 people now.. now, when they are successful , they can post about it.
its pretty funny... i just replaced both sets of pads and used the traditional way, or problmatic way (rears had a cracked rotor so i needed to put on new rotors with old pads) , first and ended up with very noisy set ups .... Then, after, used my process and they are both silent. (the rears are more challenging, for many reasons.)
Let me know if you want to know the process.
its pretty funny... i just replaced both sets of pads and used the traditional way, or problmatic way (rears had a cracked rotor so i needed to put on new rotors with old pads) , first and ended up with very noisy set ups .... Then, after, used my process and they are both silent. (the rears are more challenging, for many reasons.)
Let me know if you want to know the process.
12-14-2023, 01:24 PM
#68
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Pagid's bed in procedure that comes in the instruction sheet works for me. I'm not sure about a six year old thread where someone claims a cryptic method that only he knows. And he claims to know more than the pros and the manufacturer. And he won't share it with the thread, only by PM if you know the secret handshake.
I'm late to the game here (started tracking in 2021) and don't know this dude, but it's a weird thread. Follow manufacturer's instructions. Throw a little Permatex on the contact point with the piston during installation. They may still squeal slightly. Small sacrifice for track capability.
I'm late to the game here (started tracking in 2021) and don't know this dude, but it's a weird thread. Follow manufacturer's instructions. Throw a little Permatex on the contact point with the piston during installation. They may still squeal slightly. Small sacrifice for track capability.
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12-14-2023, 02:36 PM
#69
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Brake squealing solved with this $2.75 fix ....
https://fastlanegraphixs.com/product...acecar-sticker
https://fastlanegraphixs.com/product...acecar-sticker
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12-20-2023, 06:59 PM
#73
Now there are hybrid - or middle ground pads - that can serve dual purposes, and plenty of track pads don't squeal. But in general, no, bedding properly is not the surefire way to stop squeal
12-21-2023, 12:04 AM
#74
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Embrace the squeal. Means you have substance over form.
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12-21-2023, 09:29 AM
#75
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Not really. Ferodo 2500s are about the only thing marketed as such. They're OK for beginning drivers on the track, but wear incredibly fast once you're really hustling the car. And they squeak a little on the street also.