PCA Points Championship rules proposals
10-28-2016, 10:53 AM
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As was previously stated most regions struggle to break even for their races. There is no money in the budget for something like this.
Its a great idea but it would be the club racers who would have to pay for the transportation. As much as I want to race at Laguna Seca I use up all my budget getting to Sebring and Daytona. I'm pretty sure most drivers are in a similar situation and spend a good chunk of their budget on a couple of fly-away races.
Better to spend the money on additional stewards and scrutes.
Its a great idea but it would be the club racers who would have to pay for the transportation. As much as I want to race at Laguna Seca I use up all my budget getting to Sebring and Daytona. I'm pretty sure most drivers are in a similar situation and spend a good chunk of their budget on a couple of fly-away races.
Better to spend the money on additional stewards and scrutes.
10-28-2016, 11:15 AM
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Like I said, I'm in favor of the idea but I would love to see some additional scrutes and stewards before I saw anything like this.
10-28-2016, 01:52 PM
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I think Niels' point was that you could stick to local/regional races (with minimal transportation costs) for the season and replace faraway Sebring/Daytona races with wherever the national run-offs would be held -- for pretty much the same budget. So everyone saves on transportation costs by racing and accumulating points locally, then the best from all regions gather to duke it out for the championship in a single event.
I don't see how profitability/viability of regions' races enters this equation.
Would be nice if "national" championships really meant national.
I don't see how profitability/viability of regions' races enters this equation.
Would be nice if "national" championships really meant national.
10-28-2016, 02:17 PM
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I think Niels' point was that you could stick to local/regional races (with minimal transportation costs) for the season and replace faraway Sebring/Daytona races with wherever the national run-offs would be held -- for pretty much the same budget. So everyone saves on transportation costs by racing and accumulating points locally, then the best from all regions gather to duke it out for the championship in a single event.
I don't see how profitability/viability of regions' races enters this equation.
Would be nice if "national" championships really meant national.
I don't see how profitability/viability of regions' races enters this equation.
Would be nice if "national" championships really meant national.
10-28-2016, 08:29 PM
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I think Niels' point was that you could stick to local/regional races (with minimal transportation costs) for the season and replace faraway Sebring/Daytona races with wherever the national run-offs would be held -- for pretty much the same budget. So everyone saves on transportation costs by racing and accumulating points locally, then the best from all regions gather to duke it out for the championship in a single event.
I don't see how profitability/viability of regions' races enters this equation.
Would be nice if "national" championships really meant national.
I don't see how profitability/viability of regions' races enters this equation.
Would be nice if "national" championships really meant national.
10-29-2016, 10:36 AM
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Yes it would. As it stands today there are areas of the country that have huge numbers of a particular class car while others areas do not. If you live in an area where there are 10 vs 30 cars in your class at the races you can get to without quitting your job and your marriage you are just out of luck for the "national" championship.
I like the idea of a regional championship. Unfortunately that would require some work on the part of already taxed volunteers. To make it attendable the regional race would have to be the result of some travel analysis on the part of the attendees. For example I could see a NE/MA championship at NJMP easily. SE at RA maybe? I see the same racers from WG to Sebring so we are fairly mobile on the East Coast. The middle of the country would be a bit more difficult I think. West Coast or Texas seems to be more like the East Coast logistically.
And then that would require PCA to secure another date at tracks all over the country that probably would be no small task. The first years would be tough to manage.
I really like the idea though.
I like the idea of a regional championship. Unfortunately that would require some work on the part of already taxed volunteers. To make it attendable the regional race would have to be the result of some travel analysis on the part of the attendees. For example I could see a NE/MA championship at NJMP easily. SE at RA maybe? I see the same racers from WG to Sebring so we are fairly mobile on the East Coast. The middle of the country would be a bit more difficult I think. West Coast or Texas seems to be more like the East Coast logistically.
And then that would require PCA to secure another date at tracks all over the country that probably would be no small task. The first years would be tough to manage.
I really like the idea though.
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10-29-2016, 12:32 PM
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PCA could defray some of the organizing costs and costs to racers by inviting Porsche, tire makers, aftermarket parts makers (brakes, suspension, exhausts, race shops, etc.), to support the run-offs with their sponsorship, either through podium awards (e.g. unlimited free sticker tires for next season) or outright financial support as part of their marketing plans.
Could be made into a big Porsche festival that attracts Porsche fans and vendors from all over the country. Isn't there already an annual Porsche Parade, or smth? Could be combined with it. Just brainstorming...
Could be made into a big Porsche festival that attracts Porsche fans and vendors from all over the country. Isn't there already an annual Porsche Parade, or smth? Could be combined with it. Just brainstorming...
10-30-2016, 12:30 PM
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Eaaaasssy big fellas.
First let's see if we can get a bonus point for everyone that takes the green flag before trying to set up Regional Championships and a National Run Off.
To my recollection, the only change that has EVER been made to the Points Championship rules is the requirement to do 3 race weekends to be eligible.
First let's see if we can get a bonus point for everyone that takes the green flag before trying to set up Regional Championships and a National Run Off.
To my recollection, the only change that has EVER been made to the Points Championship rules is the requirement to do 3 race weekends to be eligible.
10-30-2016, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
PCA could defray some of the organizing costs and costs to racers by inviting Porsche, tire makers, aftermarket parts makers (brakes, suspension, exhausts, race shops, etc.), to support the run-offs with their sponsorship, either through podium awards (e.g. unlimited free sticker tires for next season) or outright financial support as part of their marketing plans.
Could be made into a big Porsche festival that attracts Porsche fans and vendors from all over the country. Isn't there already an annual Porsche Parade, or smth? Could be combined with it. Just brainstorming...
Could be made into a big Porsche festival that attracts Porsche fans and vendors from all over the country. Isn't there already an annual Porsche Parade, or smth? Could be combined with it. Just brainstorming...
and have that proposed to PCA National.
10-30-2016, 01:17 PM
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Sebring/glen/road america are the 3 biggest turnover events
Id like pca to make more efforts regarding race winner/championship
When i look at other amateurs series, they all get champagne and big Throphee loll
We received a sticker and **** looking throphee when your the national championship
Jesus, we spent 100k per year racing
Id like pca to make more efforts regarding race winner/championship
When i look at other amateurs series, they all get champagne and big Throphee loll
We received a sticker and **** looking throphee when your the national championship
Jesus, we spent 100k per year racing
10-30-2016, 03:31 PM
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Sebring/glen/road america are the 3 biggest turnover events
Id like pca to make more efforts regarding race winner/championship
When i look at other amateurs series, they all get champagne and big Throphee loll
We received a sticker and **** looking throphee when your the national championship
Jesus, we spent 100k per year racing
Id like pca to make more efforts regarding race winner/championship
When i look at other amateurs series, they all get champagne and big Throphee loll
We received a sticker and **** looking throphee when your the national championship
Jesus, we spent 100k per year racing
I'm always surprised Porsche is not more involved. I've never seen a factory rep at an event or any real connection to Porsche NA. Its always a local Porsche dealer who provides some manner of support.
....and if my wife asks I DID NOT spend $100k on racing. A set of tires lasts the whole season just like on my daily driver.
10-30-2016, 04:20 PM
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Well, you guys just have to start printing more of that funny colored Monopoly money you use! Better yet, we should work out a US dollars to CAN maple syrup exchange rate. 2 gal. CAN maple syrup = 1 Hoosier or something like that.