PCA Points Championship rules proposals
10-25-2016, 05:27 PM
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Great idea, Scott! I had a similar problem when they wanted to unplug my Race-Keeper in my GTB1 car.
Great idea, Scott! I had a similar problem when they wanted to unplug my Race-Keeper in my GTB1 car.
10-25-2016, 07:12 PM
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Scott - Thats splitter is kind of neat. Where did you get it?
questions:
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- If they pull the OBDII connection which disables the dash and potentially your ECU triggered video, what do they expect you to do? Seems to me they should have this available if the driver is otherwise using the OBDII port.
- If you use a OBDII splitter is there any risk of voltage drop that might effect something perhaps unwelcome?
10-25-2016, 07:28 PM
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Scott - Thats splitter is kind of neat. Where did you get it?
questions:
questions:
- If they pull the OBDII connection which disables the dash and potentially your ECU triggered video, what do they expect you to do? Seems to me they should have this available if the driver is otherwise using the OBDII port.
- If you use a OBDII splitter is there any risk of voltage drop that might effect something perhaps unwelcome?
http://www.lightinthebox.com/index.p...bd+ii+splitter
I don't know if it will cause any problems. It's possible that the it will due to greater impedance but I only run my AIM dash off the OBD II so I'm not really worried about it. The biggest problem for me is that I loose my tach and shift lights when it's unplugged. Not really a problem if I'm by myself but if I'm in traffic I end up banging off the rev limiter. Not good for speed. I know that there are other people using their ports, I'm not sure why the scruits don't already have one of thesee.
10-26-2016, 10:19 AM
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Scott - Thats splitter is kind of neat. Where did you get it?
questions: [LIST][*]If they pull the OBDII connection which disables the dash and potentially your ECU triggered video, what do they expect you to do? Seems to me they should have this available if the driver is otherwise using the OBDII port.
questions: [LIST][*]If they pull the OBDII connection which disables the dash and potentially your ECU triggered video, what do they expect you to do? Seems to me they should have this available if the driver is otherwise using the OBDII port.
I got it here.
http://www.lightinthebox.com/index.p...bd+ii+splitter
I know that there are other people using their ports, I'm not sure why the scruits don't already have one of these.
http://www.lightinthebox.com/index.p...bd+ii+splitter
I know that there are other people using their ports, I'm not sure why the scruits don't already have one of these.
This splitter is a great idea for people using their OBD ports for their data and I would encourage people that use the port otherwise to get it.
Per the Club Racing Rules, the OBD port must be available for data acquisition (see below) and it is the driver's responsibility to make it available in the manner described. This splitter seems to be a good solution.
For people where cars predate these OBD configurations, we need the trailer wire adapter to power the black box data system and to provide a tach signal to it.
10-26-2016, 10:38 AM
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I only run my AIM dash off the OBD II so I'm not really worried about it. The biggest problem for me is that I loose my tach and shift lights when it's unplugged. Not really a problem if I'm by myself but if I'm in traffic I end up banging off the rev limiter. Not good for speed. I know that there are other people using their ports, I'm not sure why the scruits don't already have one of thesee.
10-26-2016, 01:10 PM
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That's the way I got it. The dash is an old AIM MyChron. At one time it was wired to the hilt with sensors but many have been lost through engine swaps. I never used most of it anyway because it's not GPS enabled and using a beacon is too much of a PITA. I know I could rewire it for tach signal but I'd rather update to something else one of these days so until then the splitter will do the job.
10-27-2016, 06:29 PM
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completely agree Clarke. My only addition would be to have some sort of regional championship , like conferences, then have the "runoffs" where the top from each region participate at the end of the year for the national champ title.
This brings a more national picture , and helps those people who may race in lower volume regions have the chance to fight out with the other top guys without having to travel 2000+ miles for every race during the season.
This brings a more national picture , and helps those people who may race in lower volume regions have the chance to fight out with the other top guys without having to travel 2000+ miles for every race during the season.
10-27-2016, 06:43 PM
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completely agree Clarke. My only addition would be to have some sort of regional championship , like conferences, then have the "runoffs" where the top from each region participate at the end of the year for the national champ title.
This brings a more national picture , and helps those people who may race in lower volume regions have the chance to fight out with the other top guys without having to travel 2000+ miles for every race during the season.
This brings a more national picture , and helps those people who may race in lower volume regions have the chance to fight out with the other top guys without having to travel 2000+ miles for every race during the season.
10-27-2016, 07:29 PM
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completely agree Clarke. My only addition would be to have some sort of regional championship , like conferences, then have the "runoffs" where the top from each region participate at the end of the year for the national champ title.
This brings a more national picture , and helps those people who may race in lower volume regions have the chance to fight out with the other top guys without having to travel 2000+ miles for every race during the season.
This brings a more national picture , and helps those people who may race in lower volume regions have the chance to fight out with the other top guys without having to travel 2000+ miles for every race during the season.
10-27-2016, 08:20 PM
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I would love to see that but I don't think it will ever happen. All races are put on by individual regions and most struggle to break even. An invitation only runoff at the end of the season would really struggle unless it was subsidized by by PCA CR and I just don't see that happening. They don't even really care about tracking points, that's why we have Rennpoints run by a volunteer.
Nice idea but logisticly it just wouldn't work.
10-27-2016, 08:35 PM
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You got lucky then.....I've been weighed almost every race last few years, had the black box twice this year, pics taken of my intake, spindle height checked, and pretty sure I'm forgetting a few times........
Pretty sure there has not been a single year I haven't been checked at multiple events for several things from transmission weight chip, timing etc
It's Luck of the draw and the scruits do a damn good job if you ask me, they have alot of classes to look after and I'm sure focus on what they can when they can
Pretty sure there has not been a single year I haven't been checked at multiple events for several things from transmission weight chip, timing etc
It's Luck of the draw and the scruits do a damn good job if you ask me, they have alot of classes to look after and I'm sure focus on what they can when they can
I don't expect PCA to pay for the transport, but the event itself would be qualification only. Ie. top 4 from each regional area are invited per class. This could bring some more competitive nature to the series, which I believe would help drive more sponsorships, contingencies, etc. Sounds like a perfect setup. Porsche can further market the amateur motorsports aspect of their brand.
10-27-2016, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Niels e46 m3
Completely agree. I have been checked to some extent every race weekend, and fully support this!I don't expect PCA to pay for the transport, but the event itself would be qualification only. Ie. top 4 from each regional area are invited per class. This could bring some more competitive nature to the series, which I believe would help drive more sponsorships, contingencies, etc. Sounds like a perfect setup. Porsche can further market the amateur motorsports aspect of their brand.
I don't expect PCA to pay for the transport, but the event itself would be qualification only. Ie. top 4 from each regional area are invited per class. This could bring some more competitive nature to the series, which I believe would help drive more sponsorships, contingencies, etc. Sounds like a perfect setup. Porsche can further market the amateur motorsports aspect of their brand.
10-28-2016, 05:06 AM
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If SCCA racers can transport to national run-offs, then maybe PCA racers could, as well?
10-28-2016, 09:34 AM
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Its a great idea but it would be the club racers who would have to pay for the transportation. As much as I want to race at Laguna Seca I use up all my budget getting to Sebring and Daytona. I'm pretty sure most drivers are in a similar situation and spend a good chunk of their budget on a couple of fly-away races.
Better to spend the money on additional stewards and scrutes.