Ever had a student...
like the one I had? Guy shows up in a bone stock 2014 Stingray at TWS on worn run flats. First time instructed on the track. He had done a couple of lead-follow sessions at other tracks and a few autocrosses. The run groups are Green (newbie), Blue, and Red (advanced/instructor). Progression goes something like this:
Great attitude, extremely good judgement and a whole lot of fun to ride with. No autocross roughness to tune out. Harassing Miatas in the twisty bits and about as opposite of the typical "Corvette Douchbag" as one could be. Didn't really use the motor and never went over 130 MPH. Had absolutely no problem giving a point by to a Blue BRZ that managed to catch him. The biggest problem I had is I couldn't really determine how well he could handle overtaking traffic. This morning I wake up thinking I should have run him in Red. :evilgrin: All and all a joy to ride with even though he was proof life is not fair - it took me nearly a year of DEs to get where he was at in one stinking weekend. :icon501: -Mike |
I used to categorize my students as "Natural", "Trainable" or "Clueless" (alt. Hopeless). Thankfully, the vast majority were in the middle group. At least one of the Naturals went on to win a national championship. Only had a few of the last ones over the 16 years I instructed.
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I read "2014 Stingray" and thought it would end differently.
You sure Chevy didn't send a test driver out in green just to do damage control for the "douchey vette driver image"? Well done. |
no better feeling to help someone with natural skill that is willing to learn.
nice work. |
Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
(Post 13614699)
I read "2014 Stingray" and thought it would end differently.
You sure Chevy didn't send a test driver out in green just to do damage control for the "douchey vette driver image"? Well done. When I had him line up in front of the already established grid I joked that it's okay, they probably already though he was a douche anyway because of the car. Without the "gold chains" option, these cars are quite nice track machines. :) -Mike |
Cool story... :)
How do you assess how much of this was driver, and how much was car? A 2014 corvette is a pretty formidable car... Not surprised he was passing lots of other vehicles... Can't beat natural skill... |
Originally Posted by mark kibort
(Post 13614702)
no better feeling to help someone with natural skill that is willing to learn.
nice work. |
Nice story. Thanks for posting
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Upon reflection I can only conclude that my DE instructors had similar experiences
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Originally Posted by Streak
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Upon reflection I can only conclude that my DE instructors had similar experiences :icon107:
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I had a young kid in an evo and another gent in a car I cant remember. The kid was a former karter and the gent did bikes. They took to it like fish to water. I usually try to nudge them towards the limit of the car on corner entry when there is no one to pass them. I rarely take someone to Red from Green though. Mostly because blue is almost as fast as Red many times at Road Atlanta. Blue guys are just worse with traffic both passing and being passed.
That being said give him some time to be the best in the (blue) group and gain some seat time and possibly encounter some unforseen circumstances. IMO if they are going in Red, unless its a fairly slow group, they need to be ready for side by side, reading and anticipating trffic patterns, and adept at significant corrections. Also not tightnening up after a mistake. |
Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
(Post 13615654)
with other students
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Originally Posted by bpu699
(Post 13615355)
Cool story... :)
How do you assess how much of this was driver, and how much was car? A 2014 corvette is a pretty formidable car... Not surprised he was passing lots of other vehicles... Can't beat natural skill... One thing that did help him was the autoblip, he did not have to heel-toe, but he did still have to row the gears, so it's not like it was a DCT. He did manage a couple of passes in turns, but yes, I wouldn't trust him solo because I had very little idea how he would handle other cars close and keeping pace. Oh, one thing I forgot, I even had him completing passes off line. He kind of got away from me, in retrospect, I should have done flags and traffic management earlier when he was slower. Oh well. -Mike |
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
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with other students
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After maybe 200+ DE students, I recall 2 novices who were incredibly naturally talented, displaying wonderful skills in slow cars. Both were under 18 years old.
I was more than a little jealous--make that, I was incredibly jealous of their natural skills. From the right seat, it was incredibly rewarding and fun. |
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