Best PDK Track Car Base/Donor ????
03-05-2016, 08:54 AM
#1
Best PDK Track Car Base/Donor ????
I'm thinking hard about building a PDK Track Day car. I know its cheaper yada yada to buy a completed car, and I've done that many times, but for me half the fun is the process and continued development. Unrestrained by class rules.
I have my H class 2006 Cayman S to drive while I work on this project
So ignoring race class - what would you start with as a base car :
Cayman 987 or 981
911 - 997.2
Boxster S
Other
Thoughts appreciated.
I have my H class 2006 Cayman S to drive while I work on this project
So ignoring race class - what would you start with as a base car :
Cayman 987 or 981
911 - 997.2
Boxster S
Other
Thoughts appreciated.
03-05-2016, 09:46 AM
#3
Good questions - I like really like the 2010-2012 Caymans, I don't have any experience with the newer Caymans. They are likely better street cars - not sure if they are better platforms for track cars.
I've always loved the 911. I have a 991 as a daily driver. I had a killer 993 with a Gamroth motor and all the trick suspension bits. Thats the build and the car I miss the most.
The 997.2 looks like a good platform or 991.
A big part of my question I guess its whats a good platform to build from? Have the newest cars got too many electronics to deal with when you try to modify the car etc.
I've always loved the 911. I have a 991 as a daily driver. I had a killer 993 with a Gamroth motor and all the trick suspension bits. Thats the build and the car I miss the most.
The 997.2 looks like a good platform or 991.
A big part of my question I guess its whats a good platform to build from? Have the newest cars got too many electronics to deal with when you try to modify the car etc.
03-05-2016, 10:47 AM
#4
Good questions - I like really like the 2010-2012 Caymans, I don't have any experience with the newer Caymans. They are likely better street cars - not sure if they are better platforms for track cars.
I've always loved the 911. I have a 991 as a daily driver. I had a killer 993 with a Gamroth motor and all the trick suspension bits. Thats the build and the car I miss the most.
The 997.2 looks like a good platform or 991.
A big part of my question I guess its whats a good platform to build from? Have the newest cars got too many electronics to deal with when you try to modify the car etc.
I've always loved the 911. I have a 991 as a daily driver. I had a killer 993 with a Gamroth motor and all the trick suspension bits. Thats the build and the car I miss the most.
The 997.2 looks like a good platform or 991.
A big part of my question I guess its whats a good platform to build from? Have the newest cars got too many electronics to deal with when you try to modify the car etc.
992.2 w/ PDK built out as a track car w/ GT3 bits and pieces will be the most like the Gamroth/993. There are a few 997.2s tracked locally, they are very quick out of the box.
As to the electronics questions, the 997GT3 guys don't seem to have an issue.
03-05-2016, 04:55 PM
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When building a race car you need to start with where you want to end up and what your goals are.
Since you don't seem to be interested in racing, I think that the early PDK 997s or the 987/981 PDK Caymans could all be fun cars. It's really about your personal preference, goals and budget.
If you are looking at future resale value, I'd go with a PDK 987 because that car wound fit well into PCA Club Racing classes (I and GTB1) and they have the cheapest donor cars.
Since you don't seem to be interested in racing, I think that the early PDK 997s or the 987/981 PDK Caymans could all be fun cars. It's really about your personal preference, goals and budget.
If you are looking at future resale value, I'd go with a PDK 987 because that car wound fit well into PCA Club Racing classes (I and GTB1) and they have the cheapest donor cars.
03-05-2016, 05:22 PM
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2010-2012 PDK cayman.
Great start price wise and the body is easier to repair then new cayman.
BGB can stuff a 3.8L in it if you want more power
Great start price wise and the body is easier to repair then new cayman.
BGB can stuff a 3.8L in it if you want more power
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03-05-2016, 06:23 PM
#8
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Yes, OP talk to John T at BGB.
He is a big fan of the 7.2C2S platform: Witness post #3 here, for example: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...rs-hiding.html .
John is also a nice guy to RL peeps and helped me when I was tracking our 7.2C2S.. Good guy!
Also agree that you should pick the platform you are most interested in driving. GL.
He is a big fan of the 7.2C2S platform: Witness post #3 here, for example: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...rs-hiding.html .
John is also a nice guy to RL peeps and helped me when I was tracking our 7.2C2S.. Good guy!
Also agree that you should pick the platform you are most interested in driving. GL.
03-05-2016, 07:16 PM
#9
Bill - you are a wise man, and you avatar is killing me. Never should have sold my 993 track monster.
The 987.2 is hard to argue against - $43K for a pristine donor - very capable track car with great racing potential
I do really like the 997.2 though- 911s just do it for me- I'm leaning that way. Has PDK stayed the same since 2009 in the 997.2 came out? I love it in my 991.
The 987.2 is hard to argue against - $43K for a pristine donor - very capable track car with great racing potential
I do really like the 997.2 though- 911s just do it for me- I'm leaning that way. Has PDK stayed the same since 2009 in the 997.2 came out? I love it in my 991.
03-06-2016, 09:59 AM
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We recently finished the build of a 2009 dfi pdk 911. Base model, not S. It is a fantastic car to drive. No issues with electronics. Very competitive lap times for its class. (faster than track records at all 3 tracks we have visited with it so far).
IMO a 911 is a better start because it has much better rear suspension geometry and you can fit a much larger rear tire and match that with a larger front. I would have to look at the numbers but I believe it has a longer wheel base as well. It does seem like the cayman may be a little lighter with a comparable build than a 911 (based on what our race caymans weigh vs this recent 997.2) but with no rules to really build to, a 997 could be as light as the wallet will allow.
Either is a good choice. The pdk transmission is awesome. Very cool technology and super fun to drive.
IMO a 911 is a better start because it has much better rear suspension geometry and you can fit a much larger rear tire and match that with a larger front. I would have to look at the numbers but I believe it has a longer wheel base as well. It does seem like the cayman may be a little lighter with a comparable build than a 911 (based on what our race caymans weigh vs this recent 997.2) but with no rules to really build to, a 997 could be as light as the wallet will allow.
Either is a good choice. The pdk transmission is awesome. Very cool technology and super fun to drive.
03-06-2016, 02:17 PM
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We recently finished the build of a 2009 dfi pdk 911. Base model, not S. It is a fantastic car to drive. No issues with electronics. Very competitive lap times for its class. (faster than track records at all 3 tracks we have visited with it so far).
IMO a 911 is a better start because it has much better rear suspension geometry and you can fit a much larger rear tire and match that with a larger front. I would have to look at the numbers but I believe it has a longer wheel base as well. It does seem like the cayman may be a little lighter with a comparable build than a 911 (based on what our race caymans weigh vs this recent 997.2) but with no rules to really build to, a 997 could be as light as the wallet will allow.
Either is a good choice. The pdk transmission is awesome. Very cool technology and super fun to drive.
IMO a 911 is a better start because it has much better rear suspension geometry and you can fit a much larger rear tire and match that with a larger front. I would have to look at the numbers but I believe it has a longer wheel base as well. It does seem like the cayman may be a little lighter with a comparable build than a 911 (based on what our race caymans weigh vs this recent 997.2) but with no rules to really build to, a 997 could be as light as the wallet will allow.
Either is a good choice. The pdk transmission is awesome. Very cool technology and super fun to drive.
