Deadly crash at Buttonwillow today
12-07-2015, 04:20 AM
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x1000 One place where you don't want to try to save it is coming out of the esses...if you are going to go off just go off to the right.
12-07-2015, 11:16 AM
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In all the instruction I've had there I've been told, if you lose it out of the esses DRIVE OFF to the right do not save it, but if you hit that berm at the apex, it could easily unsettle the car very badly you're doing 100+ there. Most people track out too far and put too off, try to save, and it whips you back across to the left of the track. That wall, plus the wall on the last corner (sunset) and phil hill eat the most cars. Sunset if you enter too fast and will track to the dirt just drive off, don't try to save it.
That said who knows what happened, if mechanical, another car involved, who knows. Very sad
That said who knows what happened, if mechanical, another car involved, who knows. Very sad
12-07-2015, 12:15 PM
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So tragic. RIP...
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12-07-2015, 12:51 PM
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Very tragic but agree with earlier point this is the place to learn from it. When I used to mountain climb all the accidents were published annually. I have never been on this track but I am sure I will land there soon so thank you all that have for educating the rest of us.
12-07-2015, 03:39 PM
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Looks like the driver had significant experience (shop owner, extensive experience at BW according to his attendance and YouTube) and was an instructor at this event?
According to a woman who was there, it was a fully caged E46 M3, he was driving as the instructor and the car owner may have been the passenger.
That station seems a looong way downstream from the exit of the Esses, but at those speeds, and if he stayed in it, I can see how that might happen.
According to a woman who was there, it was a fully caged E46 M3, he was driving as the instructor and the car owner may have been the passenger.
That station seems a looong way downstream from the exit of the Esses, but at those speeds, and if he stayed in it, I can see how that might happen.
12-07-2015, 03:47 PM
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Just curious if HANS devices or some type of head and neck devices, or Halo seats were in the car. While there is some data on injuries and deaths we need to compile info better to be able to figure out how to lessen these types of deaths and injuries.
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12-07-2015, 03:52 PM
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Wow
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12-07-2015, 03:53 PM
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Looks like the driver had significant experience (shop owner, extensive experience at BW according to his attendance and YouTube) and may have been his shop project car?
That station seems a looong way downstream from the exit of the Esses, but at those speeds, and if he stayed in it, I can see how that might happen.
That station seems a looong way downstream from the exit of the Esses, but at those speeds, and if he stayed in it, I can see how that might happen.
Is this a typical dyno for an hpf car?
12-07-2015, 03:55 PM
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12-07-2015, 06:20 PM
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According to a woman who was there, it was a fully caged E46 M3, he was driving as the instructor and the car owner may have been the passenger.
That station seems a looong way downstream from the exit of the Esses, but at those speeds, and if he stayed in it, I can see how that might happen.
That station seems a looong way downstream from the exit of the Esses, but at those speeds, and if he stayed in it, I can see how that might happen.
Everytime something like this happens it questions why I get into a 400+ HP car to instruct a total stranger in a car with far fewer safety features.... RIP