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2013 Grand Prix of Singapore
09-30-2013, 08:37 PM
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Mercedes: “Crucially, because all teams now use a common engine management system, there are limitations as to what any team can change with the car on-track, and these are only the engine “mix” settings. Fundamental changes to engine “modes”, where teams may chose to put aggressive or fuel-inefficient strategies into their cars for qualifying, can no longer be made for the race with the car in the garage or by the driver on-track.”
PS: Bernie , German courts, 40M, punitive damages, jail time ....
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130807/f1/130809878
Smoke , Fire, Duck , walk, Vettel is being aided, it's expensive ...
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09-30-2013, 08:58 PM
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On behalf of Sir A.Wayne, I hereby DEMAND an official inquiry into Sebastian Vettel and RBR, re: traction control.
We need an unbiased expert, someone beyond reproach, someone who has actual experience implementing traction control in defiance of regulations.....
There is but one person for the job.....
Flavio
Of course, he will require the RB9 to be driven by an impartial driver ... Say Fernando Alonso
and a formal opinion offered.
It's good having you back Sir A.Wayne .... Just in time for the 2013 Ferrari wake and funeral.
We need an unbiased expert, someone beyond reproach, someone who has actual experience implementing traction control in defiance of regulations.....
There is but one person for the job.....
Flavio
Of course, he will require the RB9 to be driven by an impartial driver ... Say Fernando Alonso
and a formal opinion offered.It's good having you back Sir A.Wayne .... Just in time for the 2013 Ferrari wake and funeral.
09-30-2013, 09:24 PM
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I have to agree with A Wayne on this one. I thought someone mentioned the engine note of the Red Bull during the broadcast last race and the raspy sound which was being omitted from the car but can't recall who it was.
To be perfectly fair and balanced, Vettel was about 1 full second faster than everyone and .8 to .9 faster than Webber all weekend long during FP1-3. The only reason Vettel was only .1 faster than the others during Q3 was that he did not go out for his last run. This track was continuously improving, especially given that it was a street circuit and the others were able to bridge the gap.
The thing that is so troubling is how SV was able to gap the field on the restart by 2.5 seconds per lap. Typically he can gap on the race start by a second to get out of the DRS zone, but 2.5???? per lap???? that is saying something.
Thank goodness that this comment was not uttered by anyone from Ferrari or the entire RL board would have been crying sour grapes!
To be perfectly fair and balanced, Vettel was about 1 full second faster than everyone and .8 to .9 faster than Webber all weekend long during FP1-3. The only reason Vettel was only .1 faster than the others during Q3 was that he did not go out for his last run. This track was continuously improving, especially given that it was a street circuit and the others were able to bridge the gap.
The thing that is so troubling is how SV was able to gap the field on the restart by 2.5 seconds per lap. Typically he can gap on the race start by a second to get out of the DRS zone, but 2.5???? per lap???? that is saying something.
Thank goodness that this comment was not uttered by anyone from Ferrari or the entire RL board would have been crying sour grapes!
09-30-2013, 09:42 PM
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OK, so if a bunch of keyboard racers have figured out that Vettel and RBR were in clear violation of the rules, the actual F1 teams (with the clowns from Maranello at the front of the line) should have all of their official protests submitted by now.
Give Charlie a few hours to open the mail and RBR and Vettel should be banned from the rest of the 2013 season, handing the 2013 WDC AND WCC DV and Ferrari.
I KNEW picking Alonso for 2013 WDC was a no brainer ... anyone could have seen this coming.
Give Charlie a few hours to open the mail and RBR and Vettel should be banned from the rest of the 2013 season, handing the 2013 WDC AND WCC DV and Ferrari.
I KNEW picking Alonso for 2013 WDC was a no brainer ... anyone could have seen this coming.
09-30-2013, 09:54 PM
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No it's not and I'm sure you believe these released reports, you sound serious ...........
Now do tell , if you actually read what you post, how could RB be making only fuel mix changes and somehow by diverting exhaust gases, it's giving them an advantage over the others in such a manner that those in observation are seemly too stupid to figure it out ...
PS: Bernie , German courts, 40M, punitive damages, jail time ....
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130807/f1/130809878
Smoke , Fire, Duck , walk, Vettel is being aided, it's expensive ...
Now do tell , if you actually read what you post, how could RB be making only fuel mix changes and somehow by diverting exhaust gases, it's giving them an advantage over the others in such a manner that those in observation are seemly too stupid to figure it out ...
PS: Bernie , German courts, 40M, punitive damages, jail time ....
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130807/f1/130809878
Smoke , Fire, Duck , walk, Vettel is being aided, it's expensive ...
10-01-2013, 08:24 AM
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Whew! I smell the stench of desperation. Donkey cart, wind tunnel, bad team decision, now RB, well only Vettel`s car, was running TC.
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10-01-2013, 03:07 PM
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WAIT, remember when they said it was the tyres....
Apparently Nikolas disagrees with the previous "excuse" put forth by Stephano and DV ...
It's the tires ... no, it's not the tires... now we're back to the wind tunnel instrumentation (clearly it's not the wind tunnel itself, Ferrari has MORE than enough hot air being blown about by its staff and tifosi (re: morons))
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Ferrari's chief designer Nikolas Tombazis says the team cannot blame the mid-season tyre changes for its lack of performance in recent races.
Fernando Alonso has not won a race since May and is now 60 points behind championship leader Sebastian Vettel, who has won four times in the last five grands prix with his Red Bull.
Alonso said earlier this month that the introduction of a different tyres mid-season had derailed Ferrari's championship challenge.
"We won in China, and we won in Spain, and then we seemed to lose a bit of performance, especially when the 2012 Pirelli tyres came back," Alonso said.
"That was the point in the championship, when we changed the tyres, that we said bye bye [to the title]."
Ferrari must take blame for 2013 failures
Tombazis believes, however, that it would too simplistic to say the tyres have been the sole reason why Ferrari has been unable to match Red Bull's form.
"It would be somewhat superficial to blame the tyres as the only reason for our decrease in performance. We also took some development steps that were not as strong and didn't work," said Tombazis.
"Windtunnel technology has been a weak point for us, compared to our competitors. We had some problems with our flow quality so it was not as uniform as it should be and we could not run as big a model as we would have liked.
"Our data and instrumentation was quite outdated so we couldn't do that many runs and experiments per day, which was a bit of a drawback."
Ferrari has been updating its windtunnel for several months and is now ready to re-open it later this month, something Tombazis believes will offer a big boost to the team.
"The past months we spent updating it have addressed all these problems. Therefore I am optimistic that, on this front, when we are fully up and running we will not be in deficit to our competitors," he said.
It's the tires ... no, it's not the tires... now we're back to the wind tunnel instrumentation (clearly it's not the wind tunnel itself, Ferrari has MORE than enough hot air being blown about by its staff and tifosi (re: morons))
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Ferrari's chief designer Nikolas Tombazis says the team cannot blame the mid-season tyre changes for its lack of performance in recent races.
Fernando Alonso has not won a race since May and is now 60 points behind championship leader Sebastian Vettel, who has won four times in the last five grands prix with his Red Bull.
Alonso said earlier this month that the introduction of a different tyres mid-season had derailed Ferrari's championship challenge.
"We won in China, and we won in Spain, and then we seemed to lose a bit of performance, especially when the 2012 Pirelli tyres came back," Alonso said.
"That was the point in the championship, when we changed the tyres, that we said bye bye [to the title]."
Ferrari must take blame for 2013 failures
Tombazis believes, however, that it would too simplistic to say the tyres have been the sole reason why Ferrari has been unable to match Red Bull's form.
"It would be somewhat superficial to blame the tyres as the only reason for our decrease in performance. We also took some development steps that were not as strong and didn't work," said Tombazis.
"Windtunnel technology has been a weak point for us, compared to our competitors. We had some problems with our flow quality so it was not as uniform as it should be and we could not run as big a model as we would have liked.
"Our data and instrumentation was quite outdated so we couldn't do that many runs and experiments per day, which was a bit of a drawback."
Ferrari has been updating its windtunnel for several months and is now ready to re-open it later this month, something Tombazis believes will offer a big boost to the team.
"The past months we spent updating it have addressed all these problems. Therefore I am optimistic that, on this front, when we are fully up and running we will not be in deficit to our competitors," he said.
10-01-2013, 03:15 PM
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OK,
So when you posted this ....
What you really meant was this ..... 
Ahhh and for a moment in time , i figured you had an explanation, c'mon give it a try , how can RB have an exhaust engine strategy when their spec ecu doesn't allow it ...
So when you posted this ....
Mercedes: “Crucially, because all teams now use a common engine management system, there are limitations as to what any team can change with the car on-track, and these are only the engine “mix” settings. Fundamental changes to engine “modes”, where teams may chose to put aggressive or fuel-inefficient strategies into their cars for qualifying, can no longer be made for the race with the car in the garage or by the driver on-track.”
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10-01-2013, 03:31 PM
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Apparently Nikolas disagrees with the previous "excuse" put forth by Stephano and DV ...
It's the tires ... no, it's not the tires... now we're back to the wind tunnel instrumentation (clearly it's not the wind tunnel itself, Ferrari has MORE than enough hot air being blown about by its staff and tifosi (re: morons))
***
Ferrari's chief designer Nikolas Tombazis says the team cannot blame the mid-season tyre changes for its lack of performance in recent races.
Fernando Alonso has not won a race since May and is now 60 points behind championship leader Sebastian Vettel, who has won four times in the last five grands prix with his Red Bull.
Alonso said earlier this month that the introduction of a different tyres mid-season had derailed Ferrari's championship challenge.
"We won in China, and we won in Spain, and then we seemed to lose a bit of performance, especially when the 2012 Pirelli tyres came back," Alonso said.
"That was the point in the championship, when we changed the tyres, that we said bye bye [to the title]."
Ferrari must take blame for 2013 failures
Tombazis believes, however, that it would too simplistic to say the tyres have been the sole reason why Ferrari has been unable to match Red Bull's form.
"It would be somewhat superficial to blame the tyres as the only reason for our decrease in performance. We also took some development steps that were not as strong and didn't work," said Tombazis.
"Windtunnel technology has been a weak point for us, compared to our competitors. We had some problems with our flow quality so it was not as uniform as it should be and we could not run as big a model as we would have liked.
"Our data and instrumentation was quite outdated so we couldn't do that many runs and experiments per day, which was a bit of a drawback."
Ferrari has been updating its windtunnel for several months and is now ready to re-open it later this month, something Tombazis believes will offer a big boost to the team.
"The past months we spent updating it have addressed all these problems. Therefore I am optimistic that, on this front, when we are fully up and running we will not be in deficit to our competitors," he said.
It's the tires ... no, it's not the tires... now we're back to the wind tunnel instrumentation (clearly it's not the wind tunnel itself, Ferrari has MORE than enough hot air being blown about by its staff and tifosi (re: morons))
***
Ferrari's chief designer Nikolas Tombazis says the team cannot blame the mid-season tyre changes for its lack of performance in recent races.
Fernando Alonso has not won a race since May and is now 60 points behind championship leader Sebastian Vettel, who has won four times in the last five grands prix with his Red Bull.
Alonso said earlier this month that the introduction of a different tyres mid-season had derailed Ferrari's championship challenge.
"We won in China, and we won in Spain, and then we seemed to lose a bit of performance, especially when the 2012 Pirelli tyres came back," Alonso said.
"That was the point in the championship, when we changed the tyres, that we said bye bye [to the title]."
Ferrari must take blame for 2013 failures
Tombazis believes, however, that it would too simplistic to say the tyres have been the sole reason why Ferrari has been unable to match Red Bull's form.
"It would be somewhat superficial to blame the tyres as the only reason for our decrease in performance. We also took some development steps that were not as strong and didn't work," said Tombazis.
"Windtunnel technology has been a weak point for us, compared to our competitors. We had some problems with our flow quality so it was not as uniform as it should be and we could not run as big a model as we would have liked.
"Our data and instrumentation was quite outdated so we couldn't do that many runs and experiments per day, which was a bit of a drawback."
Ferrari has been updating its windtunnel for several months and is now ready to re-open it later this month, something Tombazis believes will offer a big boost to the team.
"The past months we spent updating it have addressed all these problems. Therefore I am optimistic that, on this front, when we are fully up and running we will not be in deficit to our competitors," he said.
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10-01-2013, 03:42 PM
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10-02-2013, 12:40 PM
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Apparently it's NOT traction control.
Sir A.Wayne, perhaps you should contact them and correct them....
http://www.f1plus.com/en/news/item/4...romance-report
A 'secret' solution around the exhaust-blown disffuser key in Vettel performance - report
Many are looking for answers to Vettel's dominance; seven victories so far and three in a row with the prospects of not stopping there.
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2013
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Red Bull might have implemented a critical unique solution that is giving the German a crucial edge for the rest. (LAT Photo)
RELATED NEWS
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Webber vows for 'quality' in Formula 1
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2013
Yeongam Preview: Vettel to keep his winning streak
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2013
Lauda defends Vettel's '***** in pool' comment
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2013
Newey: Past, present and future of F1
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Oct.1, 2013 (F1plus/GMM).- Sebastian Vettel's dominance is being powered by a clever post-'exhaust blowing' solution, a specialist Italian magazine claims.
After the reigning world champion extended his 2013 points lead with a dominant performance in Singapore, former F1 team boss Giancarlo Minardi raised doubts about the legality of Vettel's Red Bull.
Minardi, watching trackside at Marina Bay, said Vettel's car displayed worryingly good handling, while his Renault engine "sounded similar to past seasons when traction control went into action".
Indeed, Autosprint has now revealed an exclusive video that depicts the odd mid-corner sound of Vettel's car in Singapore.
It can be seen at http://autosprint.corrieredellosport...-vettel/10584/
The cover of the latest edition of Autosprint reads 'Il segreto di Vettel' (Vettel's secret), and reveals reportedly "confidential information" about the German's recent dominance.
Autosprint, however, doubts Red Bull is using some kind of 'traction control', but rather a clever engine mapping that mimics the behaviour of exhaust-blown diffusers in the wake of the FIA's clampdown in that area.
British journalist James Allen, writing on his blog, agrees: "Rather than traction control, some kind of mapping to blow into the exhaust within the rules is more likely".
Toto Wolff, Mercedes' competition boss, is quoted by Speed Week: "In this form, Sebastian could win all the remaining races of the season."
That could lead to more booing on the podium.
Pirelli boss Paul Hembery told the German newspaper Bild: "Sebastian will only be popular again when he loses.
"He will have to stand up in defeat, laugh and be humble. Nobody likes a bad loser.
"Maybe we can help him out by supplying him with only three tyres?" he joked.
Sir A.Wayne, perhaps you should contact them and correct them....
http://www.f1plus.com/en/news/item/4...romance-report
A 'secret' solution around the exhaust-blown disffuser key in Vettel performance - report
Many are looking for answers to Vettel's dominance; seven victories so far and three in a row with the prospects of not stopping there.
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2013
1
Red Bull might have implemented a critical unique solution that is giving the German a crucial edge for the rest. (LAT Photo)
RELATED NEWS
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2013
Webber vows for 'quality' in Formula 1
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2013
Yeongam Preview: Vettel to keep his winning streak
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2013
Lauda defends Vettel's '***** in pool' comment
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2013
Newey: Past, present and future of F1
READ MORE
» Red Bull
» Sebastian Vettel
» 2013 Championship Review
Oct.1, 2013 (F1plus/GMM).- Sebastian Vettel's dominance is being powered by a clever post-'exhaust blowing' solution, a specialist Italian magazine claims.
After the reigning world champion extended his 2013 points lead with a dominant performance in Singapore, former F1 team boss Giancarlo Minardi raised doubts about the legality of Vettel's Red Bull.
Minardi, watching trackside at Marina Bay, said Vettel's car displayed worryingly good handling, while his Renault engine "sounded similar to past seasons when traction control went into action".
Indeed, Autosprint has now revealed an exclusive video that depicts the odd mid-corner sound of Vettel's car in Singapore.
It can be seen at http://autosprint.corrieredellosport...-vettel/10584/
The cover of the latest edition of Autosprint reads 'Il segreto di Vettel' (Vettel's secret), and reveals reportedly "confidential information" about the German's recent dominance.
Autosprint, however, doubts Red Bull is using some kind of 'traction control', but rather a clever engine mapping that mimics the behaviour of exhaust-blown diffusers in the wake of the FIA's clampdown in that area.
British journalist James Allen, writing on his blog, agrees: "Rather than traction control, some kind of mapping to blow into the exhaust within the rules is more likely".
Toto Wolff, Mercedes' competition boss, is quoted by Speed Week: "In this form, Sebastian could win all the remaining races of the season."
That could lead to more booing on the podium.
Pirelli boss Paul Hembery told the German newspaper Bild: "Sebastian will only be popular again when he loses.
"He will have to stand up in defeat, laugh and be humble. Nobody likes a bad loser.
"Maybe we can help him out by supplying him with only three tyres?" he joked.
10-02-2013, 12:55 PM
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On malignant rumors regarding the Red Bull, Ferrari's position is clear. Bring it in quotation marks: 'We do not take seriously the rumors-In F1 there is a referee, it is called Fia. The FIA has all the tools to identify any irregularities. Since Red Bull has always passed the tests pre-and post-Gp, it is up to us to congratulate those who beat us. "
10-02-2013, 01:19 PM
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