moving enclosed car trailer with tractor?
12-23-2012, 02:59 AM
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Burning Brakes
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moving enclosed car trailer with tractor?
anybody have any experience with using an old, modestly-sized farm tractor to move 8000-10,000# of car hauler around?
i was exploring the idea of buying an old Farmall to hook to the 24' enclosed in order to move the trailer around the property. my trailer stays at the track, but it would be nice to move the trailer to the paddock when i'm using the racecar.
i'd like to hook up a tractor and leave it. the question is then, will a basic tractor like a Farmall or an old John Deere take on a 1000# tongue weight and tow a 9000# box around the track property?
quite obviously, i know zero about tractors.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...e-Lanz_710.jpg
i was exploring the idea of buying an old Farmall to hook to the 24' enclosed in order to move the trailer around the property. my trailer stays at the track, but it would be nice to move the trailer to the paddock when i'm using the racecar.
i'd like to hook up a tractor and leave it. the question is then, will a basic tractor like a Farmall or an old John Deere take on a 1000# tongue weight and tow a 9000# box around the track property?
quite obviously, i know zero about tractors.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...e-Lanz_710.jpg
12-23-2012, 09:26 AM
#4
It's not as easy as it sounds - the first big concern would be braking if you have any hills to go down. Unless you've got a mamouth tractor, the trailer will just push that tractor around without the trailer brakes. You can probably figure out a way to wire up a simple trailer brake controller though.
The other issue you could run into is the tounge capacity - if you use the three point hitch you'll be able to do fun things like raise/lower the ball to make going over terrain easier. However many small tractors have a 3ph rated to only 750# or so.
Alternatively there's normally another hitch point up near the rear axle that can take a ton of weight, but it might really limit your maneuverability.
The other issue you could run into is the tounge capacity - if you use the three point hitch you'll be able to do fun things like raise/lower the ball to make going over terrain easier. However many small tractors have a 3ph rated to only 750# or so.
Alternatively there's normally another hitch point up near the rear axle that can take a ton of weight, but it might really limit your maneuverability.
12-23-2012, 09:45 AM
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Assume you are using the 3 point, really this isn't much different than moving it with a truck, but will have a shorter wheel base and tighter turning radius. I have moved my trailer (24ft) with a hitch clamp on the loader, while more maneuverable but you are limited on tongue weight.
12-23-2012, 01:02 PM
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Burning Brakes
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ok, good to know. i think the tractors i'm considering, like the Deere in the link, have nearly a ton of lifting capacity on the rear 3-point. so i guess that should pretty much handle the tongue of a 9000# trailer, if i understand it correctly?
as for brakes, that's a good point. i certainly don't need the trailer driving the tractor. that said, it's pretty flat on the track property. i just need the tractor to be able to stop and control the trailer in the kindest environment. there won't be a speed element, or any on-road considerations. all slow speed. hopefully the brakes on-board the tractor can handle this?
another one...this machine will sit outside. are tractors pretty stout as far as firing up after sitting outside for 2 or 3 weeks at a time, or do they need to be babied?
as for brakes, that's a good point. i certainly don't need the trailer driving the tractor. that said, it's pretty flat on the track property. i just need the tractor to be able to stop and control the trailer in the kindest environment. there won't be a speed element, or any on-road considerations. all slow speed. hopefully the brakes on-board the tractor can handle this?
another one...this machine will sit outside. are tractors pretty stout as far as firing up after sitting outside for 2 or 3 weeks at a time, or do they need to be babied?
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12-23-2012, 01:08 PM
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They're almost made for that. Had a tractor that I used for nothing more than mowing some unused fields - so it only got started about 3 times a year, and never needed anything more than maybe a jump start the first start after winter.
12-23-2012, 02:12 PM
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Sorry I didn't see the tractor picture the first time, that should be fine hooking up to the 3pt. I have a Case/IH DX33 (compact 4x4) and would have no problem moving with the 3pt. When I move it with the loader I need to make sure I have enough weight on the back.
12-23-2012, 02:28 PM
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ok, good to know. i think the tractors i'm considering, like the Deere in the link, have nearly a ton of lifting capacity on the rear 3-point. so i guess that should pretty much handle the tongue of a 9000# trailer, if i understand it correctly?
as for brakes, that's a good point. i certainly don't need the trailer driving the tractor. that said, it's pretty flat on the track property. i just need the tractor to be able to stop and control the trailer in the kindest environment. there won't be a speed element, or any on-road considerations. all slow speed. hopefully the brakes on-board the tractor can handle this?
another one...this machine will sit outside. are tractors pretty stout as far as firing up after sitting outside for 2 or 3 weeks at a time, or do they need to be babied?
as for brakes, that's a good point. i certainly don't need the trailer driving the tractor. that said, it's pretty flat on the track property. i just need the tractor to be able to stop and control the trailer in the kindest environment. there won't be a speed element, or any on-road considerations. all slow speed. hopefully the brakes on-board the tractor can handle this?
another one...this machine will sit outside. are tractors pretty stout as far as firing up after sitting outside for 2 or 3 weeks at a time, or do they need to be babied?
12-23-2012, 03:42 PM
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...Good points...I assumed you were talking about an Ag tractor, not a compact lawn/garden variety tractor...Something in the 50-75 HP range would have the weight, brakes, hydraulics, etc to handle that trailer...I should have clarified.
