Big Al HURT123

I'm close to purchasing a 2004 gt3 that has been converted to a race car. My plan is to DE it for a while and then club race it with PCA. It weighs 2700 and is not stock. I'd rather not be lumped in with Cups....which class would it likely run with. Thanks.

Gary R.

If it were stock I think they run in Stock J or K, as it is not stock it will run it a GT class. Which one depends on a lot of things, you need to go through the CR Rulebook to figure it out.

jrgordonsenior

Didn't I just do this on another thread?....

The car will almost without question fall into GT2. The formula is 165 x 3.6=594 x 426 (minimum GT2 weight) = 2530 lbs.
For GT3 it would be 594 x 5.51= 3273 lbs.
You could also run GTA1 but you'd be against 996 RSR's.....
As for being lumped in with the cups you will be in the same run group just not in GTC3....

Big Al HURT123

Honestly the rule book is a foreign language to me. As far as GT2, what types of cars could I expect to be in this class?

mklaskin

A converted street car would have to be very seriously set up for the track. In what ways does your car deviate from stock, aside from a roll bar, seats, and harnesses?

Big Al HURT123

Its a gt3 that was coverted to a cup car style as far as pannel, bumpers, lexan Basically it lost a lot of weight. Motor, trany, gears etc remained stock.

Steward B.

To run in a stock class it must run at stock weight, have a stock engine and transmission plus stock steel body, fenders, etc. the bumpers are free. Windshield can be lexan but if you've replaced all windows with lexan, it's a GT car
Bluntly, the rule book isn't that complicated, especially compared with other sanctioning bodies.
Sounds like a great DE car but a lousy PCA CR car, if it falls into GT

Big Al HURT123

Okay I just took a good hard look at the rule book and there is no way the car would be stock or prepared; Carbon doors which the car has takes it out as does lexan rear and side windows. GT it is and likely 2. Getting the weight up to 3 would be too much. Then I gues slick or r compound.

Big Al HURT123

Why would it make a lousy CR if it fell into gt2?

67King

Why not think about changing back to stock doors and glass? I would think that would be the best way to get it competitive affordably. Especially if you are new to this, I'd think you'd want to keep it in the stock classes. And you can put ballast in whatever place inside the cockpit that gives you the best weight distribution.

You could probably sell the doors and lexan for a fair amount. Or you can hang onto them for a whiel in case you look to move into a faster class.

Big Al HURT123

67king. Thats just what I may do. But to get to stock weight I would need to add a little over 400 pounds. I'm not sure how much the doors and glass would add but I would for sure need to add ballast. The bottom line is its a
great car at a great price. If I pass on the car Due to some of these class issues (which as you mention can be fixed) i would end up buying a far inferior car for the same money or spending at least 50 percent more for similarly equipped car. I feel like this is a car I can grow into.

Jack667

You're new to Club Racing, right? Here's a thought: give up on being competitive in your class for the first couple of seasons. Go out and have fun. Check the races you'd like to run - look at the results. This will provide you with the groupings. Multiple classes are on the track at the same time and you can 'race' with cars from a lower class, as long as your class (ex GT2) is not the slowest class in that group. Use the cheaper tires and run the car as-is. After two seasons, figure out the next step(s).

Big Al HURT123

Jack667. You da man. Best advice I've heard. Makes perfect sense!

Steward B.

I'd advise finding a well set up car that's already being raced competitively in PCA CR.
There are a ton of them for sale, at good prices, all the time.
You may have to go a ways to find one but you will be paying probably 30 cents on the original owners dollar.
Having built and sold a competitive stock class car and purchased a competitive gt class car, I've been on both ends and have seen it happen

Big Al HURT123

There are tons of cars mostly 964 and older which I was considering. I had deposits on 3 different cars over the past 2 months and they all had major issues. Hard to find a nice and relatively clean one.