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Old 03-10-2011, 06:53 PM
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Endless ME 20 pads for my car....WOW $599 for the fronts....I'll stick with $300 Pagid RS29 Yellows
I'm thinking about Endless. They run them in endurance races more then Pagid in Europe, including the 24hrs Ring GT3RS I'm told. Endless is maybe just harder to get, less dealers, etc..

Pagids last me 10 days, or 20 hours before they are about 25%, but they brake like crap from 50% on, or 6 days at Sebring. What if the Endless lasts 12 days with good braking feel? Saves on hassle of replacing pads as well. Then it would be worth the price.

Need to find slotted cheap front rotors too, OEM rotors only last about 16 days or 32hours
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Need to find slotted cheap front rotors too, OEM rotors only last about 16 days or 32hours
only cheap slotted rotors what exist were mentioned upper in this thread - DBA. girodisk rotors will probably last longer but they are not cheap.
Old 03-10-2011, 07:20 PM
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utkinpol; thank you and sorry to go off topic.
IMHO, there are no good quiet track pads. You must change or you have noise.

I don't belive they have the '10GT3 size yet. Girodiscs still require modifying the brake pads... I may be wrong, I could have missed it.
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Pagids are over-rated IMO. And they get consumed faster because they are worthless below 50% thickness.
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just my opinion but who cares!! Just put the best pads on your car, suck it up, if it squeaks so what?? My car squeaks under braking on the street. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Originally Posted by mdrums
Thanks Ron.....sometimes I have track weekends back to back and I want to wash the car and wheels without having to swap to streets.

I also surfed the Internet for some Endless ME 20 pads for my car....WOW $599 for the fronts....I'll stick with $300 Pagid RS29 Yellows
I've been looking for Endless W003 which should be a better track pad but can't find them on internet. Going to call US distributor tomorrow about availability and fitment for 996 turbo. Found ME20's for my car at $350 for fronts. http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/b...4238_5307.html
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I'm thinking about Endless. They run them in endurance races more then Pagid in Europe, including the 24hrs Ring GT3RS I'm told. Endless is maybe just harder to get, less dealers, etc..

Pagids last me 10 days, or 20 hours before they are about 25%, but they brake like crap from 50% on, or 6 days at Sebring. What if the Endless lasts 12 days with good braking feel? Saves on hassle of replacing pads as well. Then it would be worth the price.

Need to find slotted cheap front rotors too, OEM rotors only last about 16 days or 32hours
Yep, My Pagids at 50% to less stink. I'm seriosuly thinking of going back to Performance Friction and try the PF01's. If Endless did last longer then I could see the benifit and I'd pay more for pads.

As far as rotors, I'm just using the stock drilled holed $300 for a set fronts. I thought real hard about going to Giro Disc slotted but they cost too much and do not seem to last long enough to justify paying 4x's the price of stock rotors. RonCT on this forum and I went back and forth trying to find cost justifaction and we could not.
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Originally Posted by Accelerator
I've been looking for Endless W003 which should be a better track pad but can't find them on internet. Going to call US distributor tomorrow about availability and fitment for 996 turbo. Found ME20's for my car at $350 for fronts. http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/b...4238_5307.html
Thanks! your 996 Turbo brakes are the same as my 997S brakes. I'll try the ME20's next.
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Originally Posted by racing916
just my opinion but who cares!! Just put the best pads on your car, suck it up, if it squeaks so what?? My car squeaks under braking on the street. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Yep I do not car about the noise on the street. I swap out track and street pads anyway and the 98 mile drive to Sebring is nothing.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I'm thinking about Endless. They run them in endurance races more then Pagid in Europe, including the 24hrs Ring GT3RS I'm told. Endless is maybe just harder to get, less dealers, etc..

Pagids last me 10 days, or 20 hours before they are about 25%, but they brake like crap from 50% on, or 6 days at Sebring. What if the Endless lasts 12 days with good braking feel? Saves on hassle of replacing pads as well. Then it would be worth the price.

Need to find slotted cheap front rotors too, OEM rotors only last about 16 days or 32hours
Trakcar:
Performance Friction makes a replacement rotor for the 997.2 GT3. These are designed to bolt to the Porsche hat and use the Porsche hardware. Retail $457.77 per rotor. We have them in stock at OG Racing.
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Thanks, but the hats and rotors for a '10 are co-cast so I need hats and rotors.
I wish it was that easy..
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As long as your car doesn't cause pad taper, run Pagids WAY past 50% !
Nearly every pro race teams use Pagid Yellows. 18 of the top 20 finishers at Daytona, etc etc etc
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Really?

Pagid blacks are outstanding pads. They are par with performance friction and hawks as many here led me to believe before I tried them.

at 100 to 50% they act just like they do at 25% and are sliglty more proned to heat up calipers at 25%, as would any other pad.

I change all my pads when they get down to about 4-5mm, which is about 25%

Orange Pagids really work well for the moderately fast racers. the nice thing about them, is that they can be used on the streed without much squealing.






Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Pagids are over-rated IMO. And they get consumed faster because they are worthless below 50% thickness.
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10 days of racing????? reallly? how do they stack up against the RS14s?
If I get 4 weekends out of a set, no matter the pad im very lucky! and I dont think Im alone at the track

what times do you run at sebring and get 6 days from a set of pads there?
Sebring harder on brakes than laguna?? it seems like it wouldnt be, so thats why I ask.

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I'm thinking about Endless. They run them in endurance races more then Pagid in Europe, including the 24hrs Ring GT3RS I'm told. Endless is maybe just harder to get, less dealers, etc..

Pagids last me 10 days, or 20 hours before they are about 25%, but they brake like crap from 50% on, or 6 days at Sebring. What if the Endless lasts 12 days with good braking feel? Saves on hassle of replacing pads as well. Then it would be worth the price.

Need to find slotted cheap front rotors too, OEM rotors only last about 16 days or 32hours
Old 03-16-2011, 06:26 PM
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We had two hour long races with the GTGP at laguna. I had no issues with the pagid blacks getting wet, but i think they were hot enough to fight off any water. 500F for the rotors when I came in the pits, so i dont think water could survive. i did drive home in a driving rain storm (drove the race car to the race) no ill effects. ran fine the next time out at thunderhill.

Originally Posted by mdrums
RonCT is correct but I am useing RS29 Yellow up front and RS14 Black in the rear to even up bias some. I swap back to street pads...take only an extra minute to swap pads when swapping wheels...very easy to do.

Also....what is the thought on NOT getting Pagid or other race pads wet? I've read/heard NOT to get race pads wet.


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