View Poll Results: Who will win the Conga race?
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Felipe Massa
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Rubens Barrichello
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Nico Hulkenberg
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Robert Kubica
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Vitaly Petrov
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Adrian Sutil
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Viantonio Liuzzi
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Sebastien Buemi
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Jamie Alguersuari
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Jarno Trulli
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Heikki Kovalainen
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Bruno Senna
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Pedro de la Rosa
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Kamui Kobayashi
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Timo Glock
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Lucas di Grassi
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2010 Monaco Grand Prix
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This is my 1st post in this thread (page 12).... and you guys are usually pretty snobby when "outsiders" comment
... anyway...
Why does everyone expect MS to be just as fantastic as be was 4 years ago? New car, new team, and has had very little testing before the first race.
He is constantly improving. Ray Charles can see that. He's already beating his teammate, who's mission in life, it seems, is to beat MS. And.... I'm sure the cars are something to do with the "middle of the pack" problems. Its not like his gay teammate Nico is winning every race. Both cars are having about the same results.
This year is in the toilet... of course. If he decides to race next year, then we should see some good racing from the old(er) man.
Why does he have to prove something? What's wrong with doing it for the love of driving an F1 car?
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Why does everyone expect MS to be just as fantastic as be was 4 years ago? New car, new team, and has had very little testing before the first race.
He is constantly improving. Ray Charles can see that. He's already beating his teammate, who's mission in life, it seems, is to beat MS. And.... I'm sure the cars are something to do with the "middle of the pack" problems. Its not like his gay teammate Nico is winning every race. Both cars are having about the same results.
This year is in the toilet... of course. If he decides to race next year, then we should see some good racing from the old(er) man.
I just don't know what he's trying to prove, having broken every existing record already. He has nowhere to go but down from here, surely there are other outlets for his sporting desires. I'd hate to see him fall from grace after achieving such a distinguised career, and that's what he's now doing.
Also, let's not forget that the racing was better immediately upon his departure....
Also, let's not forget that the racing was better immediately upon his departure....
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This is my 1st post in this thread (page 12).... and you guys are usually pretty snobby when "outsiders" comment
... anyway...
Why does everyone expect MS to be just as fantastic as be was 4 years ago? New car, new team, and has had very little testing before the first race.
He is constantly improving. Ray Charles can see that. He's already beating his teammate, who's mission in life, it seems, is to beat MS. And.... I'm sure the cars are something to do with the "middle of the pack" problems. Its not like his gay teammate Nico is winning every race. Both cars are having about the same results.
This year is in the toilet... of course. If he decides to race next year, then we should see some good racing from the old(er) man.
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Why does everyone expect MS to be just as fantastic as be was 4 years ago? New car, new team, and has had very little testing before the first race.
He is constantly improving. Ray Charles can see that. He's already beating his teammate, who's mission in life, it seems, is to beat MS. And.... I'm sure the cars are something to do with the "middle of the pack" problems. Its not like his gay teammate Nico is winning every race. Both cars are having about the same results.
This year is in the toilet... of course. If he decides to race next year, then we should see some good racing from the old(er) man.
Rosberg qualy 5-1
races in front 4-2
Podiums : 2-0
points 56-22
where is the beating ? how is schumacher in front ?
Same MO from every schumcher person ... blurred vision and perspective..
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I just don't know what he's trying to prove, having broken every existing record already. He has nowhere to go but down from here, surely there are other outlets for his sporting desires. I'd hate to see him fall from grace after achieving such a distinguised career, and that's what he's now doing.
Also, let's not forget that the racing was better immediately upon his departure....
Also, let's not forget that the racing was better immediately upon his departure....
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But look at it this way, Here is a 7 time WDC and he's not so consumed with his own legacy that he is willing to go back out there and race at the highest level despite the fact that he is past his prime and older than anyother competitor out there. It's refreshing to know he's just not sitting back and worried about his rep. and is willing to put it on the line. That takes *****.
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The racing was better after he left because he was so dominate in his prime. This could be debated until the end of time, but none of these guys today could touch Schumacher in his prime.
Wayne, you might not have wanted to be Schumacher's teammate, but he was ALWAYS a team guy. You can't even compare Alonso (SPELLED WITH AN "I") to Schumacher as a team player. Read anything from Todt, Brawn, or any of the engineers or mechanics that every worked with Schumacher. They would run through a wall for him and in turn, he would be grateful for everything they did for him to acheive his greatness. Never forget that.
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The truth is, you can just come in and say what you want. There are others on the F1 threads that annoy A. Wayne enough that he eventually puts you on ignore, just saying...
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My comment is implying that at the beginning, Nico WAS better.... in the last 2 races, MS has been. He is improving.
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Ya gotta admit, as much as you guys seem to dislike A. Wayne, that's a pretty funny picture there!
As for Schumy, it's true that he was a great champion, and I have insight from some Ferrari brass that he was quite the diplomat as well. So, far be it for me to take anything away from him, especially as I always pull for Ferrari and it was so great for so long.
But, I never liked some of his tactics; blatantly running Damon off to gain I think his first WC. Then, trying it on Gilles, who admitted that he fully expected it and was ready. Also, he was the one who sought clarification on blocking that resulted in the "one move" intepretation. Such crap, I hate any form of blocking. Too self-serving, even his patented chops right at the start were predictable and unsporting.
As for Schumy, it's true that he was a great champion, and I have insight from some Ferrari brass that he was quite the diplomat as well. So, far be it for me to take anything away from him, especially as I always pull for Ferrari and it was so great for so long.
But, I never liked some of his tactics; blatantly running Damon off to gain I think his first WC. Then, trying it on Gilles, who admitted that he fully expected it and was ready. Also, he was the one who sought clarification on blocking that resulted in the "one move" intepretation. Such crap, I hate any form of blocking. Too self-serving, even his patented chops right at the start were predictable and unsporting.
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Yeah, but all the great ones want one more shot at glory. How about Michael Jordan, or Brett Favre, or Lance Armstrong? Did they do it to continue their legacy, or because they desperately missed the sport that they love? I think that only they can truly know the answer.
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I blame it all on that so called Amigo and Super Moderator LTC. Everytime it's nice and calm with a 3 week break between races, he stirs up the pot and calls Wayne out of his lair. I think LTC gets paid by the number of posts he moderates ![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Word on the street is whenever LTC needs to pay for a vacation or tuition payment, he sets up a "Schumacher vs. Alonso" or Danica Patrick thread.
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Word on the street is whenever LTC needs to pay for a vacation or tuition payment, he sets up a "Schumacher vs. Alonso" or Danica Patrick thread.
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Right now, boys. Right now.
I just woke up from watching the Monaco GP. Snooze. Yawn.
What happened to MS? He made a legal pass under a green flag (greens means go, in case you guys don't no the flags) and some x-driver with an ax to grind makes a hasty decision to penalize? 2 rules canceling each other out.
Only 2 options: 1) Legal pass. He finished 6th. 2) He is demoted to 7th which is one position below what he EARNED.
Alonso did NOT have a good DRIVE. He and the team made a very good (only option) call and he was incredibly lucky there were so many SC events. This is how the game is played and good on him for doing something with nothing.
Great ones like MS and Michael Jordan come back because they miss the only life they ever knew and the great feelings that they became addicted to. MS continues to step up his game. The questions is can he bring it back to HIS old level or at least to the level of today’s talent. None of which are anywhere near duplicating what he did.
I just woke up from watching the Monaco GP. Snooze. Yawn.
What happened to MS? He made a legal pass under a green flag (greens means go, in case you guys don't no the flags) and some x-driver with an ax to grind makes a hasty decision to penalize? 2 rules canceling each other out.
Only 2 options: 1) Legal pass. He finished 6th. 2) He is demoted to 7th which is one position below what he EARNED.
Alonso did NOT have a good DRIVE. He and the team made a very good (only option) call and he was incredibly lucky there were so many SC events. This is how the game is played and good on him for doing something with nothing.
Great ones like MS and Michael Jordan come back because they miss the only life they ever knew and the great feelings that they became addicted to. MS continues to step up his game. The questions is can he bring it back to HIS old level or at least to the level of today’s talent. None of which are anywhere near duplicating what he did.