wanna911

I know this can't be over simplified but which is better for road course duties? Let's say all else the same on one car. But the only differences are.

Car A (supercharged)

400 hp 396 torque

Rev limit 6100 rpm

Peak torque at 3800 rpm
Peak hp at 6000 rpm



Car B (N/A)

400 hp 300 torque

Rev limit 8400 rpm

Peak torque at 6100 rpm
Peak hp at 8200 rpm



I'm asking because of the statement that torque wins races, however noting that the high revving NA motor has it's place in history as well.


Discuss.

Veloce Raptor

High revs are overrated.

wanna911

Why is that?

AlpharettaRK

Accelleration comes from torque. In your example with 32% more torque in car A and equal HP I think it's an easy choice, car A. Redline really doesn't matter - the gearbox is adjusted for that. Real world when the compromise includes giving up some HP for the extra torque you may lose some top end and depending on the track that could be important
Cheers
Randy

Bill Verburg

That's what proper gearing is for

Veloce Raptor

Good question.

In your example:

Car A (supercharged)
400 hp 396 torque
Peak torque at 3800 rpm
Peak hp at 6000 rpm

Car B (N/A)
400 hp 300 torque
Peak torque at 6100 rpm
Peak hp at 8200 rpm

Both cars make same HP, but car A makes it much lower in the rev range, which is much more useful on a road course (IMO) especially a very technical one such as Barber. In addition, car A also makes peak torque (which is also a lot more than car B's) much MUCH lower in the revs, which is a lot more useful getting out of corners even on more open road courses such as Road Atlanta and VIR.

A.Wayne

Ohh boy this again


Very idiotic statement coach ................................

F1 22,000
Nascar 9000 RPM

Every racing series in the world RPM limit to slow the cars

ritzblitz

Now to make it more interesting-

What about an engine that makes 350hp/350tq?

Veloce Raptor

You are a breathtaking moron, buddy. Way to compare apples to ashtrays. But then again, you have never been on a track at speed, have you?

Oh, and your boyfriend you quote in your signature line was never a student nor a friend. Way to make even more of an *** of yourself.

A.Wayne

Assuming both cars weight the same .

Car A will come off the corners better , car B will be faster down the straights..

Euro type track with fast open corners and long straights , car B
Road Atlanta - Car A
Sebring - Car B
Daytona - Car - B

A.Wayne

As Moronic as ever ...................You go Girl

Veloce Raptor

Not true at all. Depends on gearing and a lot of other factors as well.

Stick with OT, where you are at the peak of your intellect.

Veloce Raptor

TRANSLATION: "Damn, I just got owned by VR again!"

Veloce Raptor

TRANSLATION: "Damn, I just got owned by VR again!"

A.Wayne

You are so proud of your ignorance ... truly amazing , an AMIGO


Vroom , Vroom , Ahh the no telemetry DE coach........................