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Old 12-13-2007, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Astroman
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Haven't been to Mosport, but I was assured that 12 at Atlanta was as wild as it got... Damnit!!! I better put Mosport on the list...
The difference is that the first part of the T12 Road Atlanta (Flat out, under the bridge) is no big deal. Whereas at Mosport, you are braking & turning to the left, while cresting the hill to a blind apex. The 2nd halves of the turns are similar, with similar apex speeds, expect Mosport is narrower the whole way down.
Old 12-14-2007, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 38D
The difference is that the first part of the T12 Road Atlanta (Flat out, under the bridge) is no big deal. Whereas at Mosport, you are braking & turning to the left, while cresting the hill to a blind apex. The 2nd halves of the turns are similar, with similar apex speeds, expect Mosport is narrower the whole way down.
Agreed. To me T2 at Mosport is far scarier than T12 at Road Atlanta. That's not to say that T12 isn't scary...
Old 12-14-2007, 01:48 AM
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Call me crazy, but I think T1 at Mt. Tremblant ranks up there with T2 at Mosport and T12 at Road Atlanta
Old 12-14-2007, 02:42 AM
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Here's a good Mosport video.
Very wet for the start of the race---It dries out about 1/2 way through it.

http://www.lgmracing.com/lgm-0708-mosport.wmv

This is a link for LG Motorsports web site with a ton of race videos
http://www.lgmracing.com/
Old 12-14-2007, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 38D
...Whereas at Mosport, you are braking & turning to the left, while cresting the hill to a blind apex.

Braking ? Oh no no no no. Maybe a slight lift......

T1-etc (Le Diable ?) Mt. Tremblant isn't the same since they emasculated it 8-10 years ago.
Old 12-14-2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian P
Call me crazy, but I think T1 at Mt. Tremblant ranks up there with T2 at Mosport and T12 at Road Atlanta
If you're thinking of the top of the hill at Tremblant that's T2. My favorite corner on the track.
Old 12-14-2007, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Professor Helmüt Tester
Braking ? Oh no no no no. Maybe a slight lift......
You clearly don't drive my car, in which anyone including a top pro would need to brake. Scotto, Burger & Savenor, Jim Hamblin, and locals like Ernie Jakubowski & Tim Sanderson all brake there. If I drove a spec miata or a 944, I would guess it is nearly flat out.
Old 12-14-2007, 06:55 PM
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Colin, correct, 944 spec cars flat through 1 and 2 but does take a bit of faith for that to happen. Ran 3 hr enduro at Mosport in the fall, with one of my rentals. Most fun race , I had all year, other than Road Altanta.
Old 12-14-2007, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 38D
You clearly don't drive my car, in which anyone including a top pro would need to brake. Scotto, Burger & Savenor, Jim Hamblin, and locals like Ernie Jakubowski & Tim Sanderson all brake there. If I drove a spec miata or a 944, I would guess it is nearly flat out.
Or pros with that good old downforce and a prototype.

Similar car to 38D's here, and you would want to brake if interested in coming out the other side of 2.
Old 12-14-2007, 10:04 PM
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Indeed;

I finally got front straight-thru-1-through-2-toward-3 down to being a "flat-breath-flat-breathe-flat affair." Virtually no brake. Takes some real fortitude, even in my pokey car.

Turns like 2 at Mosport do not necessarily reward going in like the howling wind. You want to come OUT fast. If you go in like gangbusters, you probably either scrub... or die. Coming in with some discretion, and accelerating out might be quicker. Might also prolong ones longevity.

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Old 12-16-2007, 04:32 PM
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I would really like to see the facilities at Mosport be upgraded a bit but, I have driven both and track wise the winner is Mosport.

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Hope to race Mosport in the next year or two. I've heard its an amazing track.

Learned to drive and race at Road Atlanta. I think #1 at Road Atlanta, if driven at the speed needed to be quick, was harder to learn than 12.
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Oh Hell! Just drive them both!
Old 12-20-2007, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DHinkle
Hope to race Mosport in the next year or two. I've heard its an amazing track.

Learned to drive and race at Road Atlanta. I think #1 at Road Atlanta, if driven at the speed needed to be quick, was harder to learn than 12.
Yes but the consequences for a mistake aren't quite the same.
Old 12-21-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RedlineMan
I finally got front straight-thru-1-through-2-toward-3 down to being a "flat-breath-flat-breathe-flat affair." Virtually no brake. Takes some real fortitude, even in my pokey car.
I have always heard people say that they go through turns 1 and 2 at Mosport flat-out in a 944. In my mind that means you are at WOT from the exit of 10 until entry of 3. Does anybody think that is possible with a 2500lb+ 944 not running on slicks?? I think you would be almost flying over the crest into 2 if you did that... and I would be sincerly humbled if this is true...

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