Camber on 944's with CupSports
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Camber on 944's with CupSports
Anyone out there with a recommended camber setting for a stock-ish 944T running Michelin Pilot Cup Sports? I'm currently thinking 2.5 degrees.
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Michelin Pilot Sport CUP do not require anything more aggresive than a max-street alignment. The Michelin site (www.michelinman.com) has a care and feeding segment as a pdf file that gives advise on HOT pressure, pyrometer optimum, alignment specs and advise on re-grooving for wet weather conditions.
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Thanks but I've already seen that. They advise anywhere between 1.5-3 degrees of camber. That doesn't really help much.
I'm slaughtering S03's at 1.8 right now and I would definitely up it to 2.5 if I was running S03's again.
Sport Cups go on the car this weekend and while I'm at it, I'd love to know if anyone with first hand experience has any suggestions on camber.
I'm slaughtering S03's at 1.8 right now and I would definitely up it to 2.5 if I was running S03's again.
Sport Cups go on the car this weekend and while I'm at it, I'd love to know if anyone with first hand experience has any suggestions on camber.
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I just purchased an PCA e-class 1989 944 Turbo and it had the Pilot Cup Sports on it. It too was running -2.5 camber.
I have gone back to Hoosiers... This car was running Hoosier before the Pilots...
The Pilots they said were fantastic in the rain and were consistent in the dry. It just took many laps a in 6-10 to get them up to temp...
Norm
Cincinnati, OH
I have gone back to Hoosiers... This car was running Hoosier before the Pilots...
The Pilots they said were fantastic in the rain and were consistent in the dry. It just took many laps a in 6-10 to get them up to temp...
Norm
Cincinnati, OH
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I'd love to hear back on this too - starting to use my Pilots this weekend. For lack of more/better info, I'm planning to run them at the same camber settings (I think around 2.5 deg, can't remember!) as I've been running the Hoosiers on.
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Last February, there was a PCA tri-region Tire Tech (NNJR, CVR, Metro-NY). Doug Brown, from Michelin Tires was there to specifically discuss the Pilot Sport Cup.
According to him and Michelin, regarding alignment: "Negative camber should be targeted between 1.5 to 3 degrees wiht a maximum of 4 degrees. Do not get too crazy here."
I suppose the wide-ish range of the recommended camber is due to the fact that people have very different styles of driving.
So what has been posted up top is true. I think the point Michelin is trying to make is that these tires don't need massive amounts of negative camber to work properly.
HTH,
-Zoltan.
According to him and Michelin, regarding alignment: "Negative camber should be targeted between 1.5 to 3 degrees wiht a maximum of 4 degrees. Do not get too crazy here."
I suppose the wide-ish range of the recommended camber is due to the fact that people have very different styles of driving.
So what has been posted up top is true. I think the point Michelin is trying to make is that these tires don't need massive amounts of negative camber to work properly.
HTH,
-Zoltan.
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I suspect the other reason for the range noted is because too many types of car require such different settings, in particular dependant on suspension setup. They're more or less just describing a general range to confirm to people that you pretty much should just slap them on with the same settings you've used for other competition tires, then go take temps and see what they're doing. Which is of course the ultimate answer.
I don't expect I'll be able to get any temps from this weekend, running short on crew...
I don't expect I'll be able to get any temps from this weekend, running short on crew...