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VR, did Martin give any samples from his prior ride? I only got a case of Diet Coke from Truex.
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
I've driven Daytona and it is steep, bumpy, narrow and intimidating. My car, which probably handles much better than a Nextel car, was interesting at 150 there. I can only imagine what 180 would be like.
Larry, I'm impressed.....
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Bob:
I don't dislike Gordon, I'm just not a fan.
I am pulling for JPM this year though! I think he'll do well. It's just a different style of driving, length of races, pitting, etc that's simply gonna take a little while to get use to.
The Ganassi shop is about 4 miles from my house. A girl that works with my wife at the Dr's office where she works, her fiance is JPM's spotter. We're tryng to line it up so that he can give me a "behind the scenes" tour of the shop sometime soon.
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I don't dislike Gordon, I'm just not a fan.
I am pulling for JPM this year though! I think he'll do well. It's just a different style of driving, length of races, pitting, etc that's simply gonna take a little while to get use to.
The Ganassi shop is about 4 miles from my house. A girl that works with my wife at the Dr's office where she works, her fiance is JPM's spotter. We're tryng to line it up so that he can give me a "behind the scenes" tour of the shop sometime soon.
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Sweet.
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Brian, awesome, take VR with you. I am sure JPM would invite you back again..........
BTW, I did not think your comment on Gordon was a diss. NASCAR has done what we wish GAC/F1/ALMS could do in the states. Public following, endorsement. But looking forward, it would most likely ruin the commitment that the drivers make just like pro sports such as Football etc. See you at VIR, looking forward to giving you a pass signal.
BTW, I did not think your comment on Gordon was a diss. NASCAR has done what we wish GAC/F1/ALMS could do in the states. Public following, endorsement. But looking forward, it would most likely ruin the commitment that the drivers make just like pro sports such as Football etc. See you at VIR, looking forward to giving you a pass signal.
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VR, your caption should have been:
I have to drive that?
I have to drive that?
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Dem boys can drive! I've driven Daytona and it is steep, bumpy, narrow and intimidating. More than once the camera showed a driver at 180 mph dialing in a handful of opposite lock to keep his beast going straight. My car, which probably handles much better than a Nextel car, was interesting at 150 there. I can only imagine what 180 would be like.
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Regarding that "Tradin' Paint" segment on Gordon and Montoya, it went the other way as well. Montoya was about a second slower than Gordon in Gordon's Cup car.
I'm NOT a Montoya fan at all, not because of his driving, but all the blaming he did in F1. It was always someone else's fault. But I must admit, I'm pulling for him to do well in NASCAR, but I don't think that's going to happen. I don't follow NASCAR like I follow Formula One, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong, I thought I heard someone say Chip Ganassi's Nextel Cup team has not won a race in 5 years? If that is true, it's a tough road ahead for JPM. I can't wait to see JPM, vs. Boris Said, vs. Gordon (Jeff and Robby) at Sears Pt. and the Glen.
I can't recall, but did Gordon get a test in the Williams BMW after the Tradin Paint thing? I was hoping Gordon would try to make history and jump from NASCAR to F1, but there was just too much money on the table in NASCAR.
Finally DMD, it's easy to judge when your relatively new to this sort of thing, but with time, you'll learn to appreciate the different skills required in all disiplines and forms. Like VR said, patience, it'll come.
I'm NOT a Montoya fan at all, not because of his driving, but all the blaming he did in F1. It was always someone else's fault. But I must admit, I'm pulling for him to do well in NASCAR, but I don't think that's going to happen. I don't follow NASCAR like I follow Formula One, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong, I thought I heard someone say Chip Ganassi's Nextel Cup team has not won a race in 5 years? If that is true, it's a tough road ahead for JPM. I can't wait to see JPM, vs. Boris Said, vs. Gordon (Jeff and Robby) at Sears Pt. and the Glen.
I can't recall, but did Gordon get a test in the Williams BMW after the Tradin Paint thing? I was hoping Gordon would try to make history and jump from NASCAR to F1, but there was just too much money on the table in NASCAR.
Finally DMD, it's easy to judge when your relatively new to this sort of thing, but with time, you'll learn to appreciate the different skills required in all disiplines and forms. Like VR said, patience, it'll come.
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They both did well in the other's car, but you cannot compare times to times. Setup aside, F1 is all about driving the car, and Nascar is all about managing the traffic.
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Originally Posted by M3Pete
I can't recall, but did Gordon get a test in the Williams BMW after the Tradin Paint thing? I was hoping Gordon would try to make history and jump from NASCAR to F1, but there was just too much money on the table in NASCAR.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Watching the Daytona 500, I am amazed at just how bumpy the banked sections are. I have never raced there, and read with interest the reports from those of you who have. And y'all always say how bumpy it is. But I guess I never realized how bad it is until watching some of the in-car out-the-windshield shots today.
Yikes.
Yikes.
My view is that Nascar has very talented drivers and I have great respect for them...I'm just not a big fan of oval tracks. When I watched the race yesterday, I was struck by how different my experience was...we were 4 wide diving into Turn 1 and there's really only room for 1/2 cars by the time you go through the 2/3 sequence.
Pucker time!!!
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
They both did well in the other's car, but you cannot compare times to times. Setup aside, F1 is all about driving the car, and Nascar is all about managing the traffic.
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Not to mention these beasts are just that at around what, 3400lbs and steering wheels bigger than wagon wheels I've seen on those old John Wayne Westerns!!!
Also remember that they only have 15" wheels, and thus their brakes are woefully undersized for the weight of the cars (although they are Brembo monoblocs...)
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Originally Posted by penguinking
none of the big teams could afford gordon? i doubt that was the reason, especially considering how much ferrari paid MS
In NASCAR he had big $$ in purses, sponsorship and an owner of a team. That's a lot to give up to be tester for a future shot at a race seat. On top of that, Williams (the team he was seen in the paddock on off weekends from NASCAR) is not a team that likes to pay drovers well. They'd rather put the money into the car.
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Originally Posted by M3Pete
Trust me, no one was going to pay a drover that was unproven in F1, MS money. Gordon would likely have been a test driver. He wasn't going to displace JPM or Ralf Schumacher, at least not for a year or two.
In NASCAR he had big $$ in purses, sponsorship and an owner of a team. That's a lot to give up to be tester for a future shot at a race seat. On top of that, Williams (the team he was seen in the paddock on off weekends from NASCAR) is not a team that likes to pay drovers well. They'd rather put the money into the car.
In NASCAR he had big $$ in purses, sponsorship and an owner of a team. That's a lot to give up to be tester for a future shot at a race seat. On top of that, Williams (the team he was seen in the paddock on off weekends from NASCAR) is not a team that likes to pay drovers well. They'd rather put the money into the car.
This is all a moot point seeing that hte next American F1 driver will be Marco Andretti. He'll be offered a seat within the next two years for F1 is what I see happening. You don't get offered a second test within a month without being very much on somebody's radar.