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Old 04-28-2003, 03:21 PM
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Question Race fuel needed

Does anyone have a good vendor in the Northern New Jersey area for race fuel? Looking for VP Performance unleaded or Sunoco GT. Think those are the two options I have without big $$
Would love to just find a pump and not buy pails or drums since I'm looking for "low" 100 octane race fuel.
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John,

<a href="http://www.VPRacingFuels.com" target="_blank">www.VPRacingFuels.com</a> will ship to you UPS or Fed Ex. They sell MS-103 unleaded in several size drums. Distributors are Newark, De. & Balt., Md.. If you need some for Lime Rock Club Race let me know and I can bring you a drum or two.
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THe distributor for Sunoco Race fuel should be able to let you know where all the dealers are. I think there's one near Morristown and there's one in Point Pleasant.

Sunoco Race Fuel Distributor
A-1 RACING SPECIALTIES, INC.
Stanley Coven/
Fred Bobb
180 E. Railway Avenue
Paterson, NJ 07503
973-684-7755 / 800-783-2262
Fax: 973-345-9442
Old 04-28-2003, 04:51 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> If you need some for Lime Rock Club Race let me know and I can bring you a drum or two. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Thanks Bill!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
I'll let you know by tomorrow. What does VP get for a 30 gal drum?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> Sunoco Race Fuel Distributor </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Thanks Al. I did speak to A-1 a little while ago. They have GT which is 100 RON (no MON number) for $5.00 and GT+ which is 104 for $5.60/gal.
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Not exactly sure. Maybe $180. per drum, $6. a gallon but your motor will spool up faster saving you .000003 seconds making up for that missed shift;&gt; I just picked up 3 drums but I burn the invoices.
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John.

There is a Sunoco station(Tracy's Sunoco) in Ledgewood NJ.

Off rte 80 Exit 30(Howard Blvd exit) They sell Sunoco GT100 unleaded from a separate pump.
They carry race gas all year round. 973-584-5114

Their supplier is A-1 racing Specialties Inc in Paterson NJ( Sunoco racing Fuel Distributor)
They also have 104 Octane Unleaded.1-800-783-2262

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BTW, I pay $4.25/gal at the Sunoco station for GT100 Unleaded

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Also, the Octane # is (MON+RON)/2

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John.

Sunoco GT100 is also available at Lime Rock from one of their three pumps.

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"Motorsport 103 is VP's name for its street legal gasoline, designed for maximum power and throttle response. Motorsport 103 is an unleaded fuel of high octane that provides the power and protectionMotorsport 103 is VP's name for its street legal gasoline, designed for maximum power and throttle response. Motorsport 103 is an unleaded fuel of high octane that provides the power and protection equal to some leaded racing fuels. equal to some leaded racing fuels."

R+M/2:103 $172.50 for a 30 ga. drum= $5.75

That is VP's info on the MS103. When you are spending 1,200. or so on fresh rubber, 450. on brake pads... does $1. a gallon matter or is the blend over 100 wasted in stock class?
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Umm, Am I missing something. They sell the 100 Octane stuff at Limerock for the same price of buying the drums elsewhere. Why would you transport fuel then. Also, I use the higher octane fuel not for increased performance, but reduction of detonation in a hot engine.
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Sunoco 100 probably has a motor octane of 94-97. I did not look it up. VP103 has a motor octane of 99 and research octane of 107. Huge spread at only .75 a gallon. That is why I haul it around.
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Sunoco GT100 has a RON of 105 and MON of 95

Sunoco GT104 has a RON of 109 and MON of 99

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">reduction of detonation in a hot engine </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">That's why I'm going to use it. I seem to have that issue to the point of pounding my #3 rod bearing

Thanks for all the information and offers. A fellow 928 racer in CT is going to bring me some Sunoco 110 leaded for under $5.00/gal.
Don't you just love CIS cars....no O2 sensor

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What O2 sensor!! Mine is taken out of the loop at WOT...See you on Thursday John..

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