Any thoughts on the #22 Aston Martin driver's "move" this past weekend at LRP?
05-31-2019, 09:30 PM
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I would certainly think that is what everything thinks BUT a common problem on internet forums is that people don't always reference which part of a thread they are talking about!
I'm guessing that Mike and I were both confused by the whole 'yellow group driver shouldn't be racing' thing. It is NOT clear from the thread which driver is the 'yellow PCA driver.'
That is all.
I'm guessing that Mike and I were both confused by the whole 'yellow group driver shouldn't be racing' thing. It is NOT clear from the thread which driver is the 'yellow PCA driver.'
That is all.
05-31-2019, 09:31 PM
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05-31-2019, 09:34 PM
#48
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I would certainly think that is what everything thinks BUT a common problem on internet forums is that people don't always reference which part of a thread they are talking about!
I'm guessing that Mike and I were both confused by the whole 'yellow group driver shouldn't be racing' thing. It is NOT clear from the thread which driver is the 'yellow PCA driver.'
That is all.
I'm guessing that Mike and I were both confused by the whole 'yellow group driver shouldn't be racing' thing. It is NOT clear from the thread which driver is the 'yellow PCA driver.'
That is all.
05-31-2019, 09:35 PM
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06-01-2019, 10:05 AM
#51
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I for one appreciate when people share others' asinine on-track behavior so I know who to stay way from. This Aston guy sounds like a real prize.
06-01-2019, 11:15 AM
#52
Sorry I was not initially clear about Aston Martin #22- I would never allow a Yellow Instructed PCA student to race in any Series. My heart goes out to the Cup Car that was destroyed. Zero tolerance - can't allow hot heads in my DE world. . It's about Safe serious Fun. We are all winners when we go home safe. Our events are a close knit community of dedicated car enthusiasts- I'm protecting my groups. Even on test & tune open passing formats we observe to try & anticipate any issues as much as possible.
06-01-2019, 11:38 AM
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To be clear, this was in a sanctioned race weekend.
Nothing to do with any DE or test and tune day.
It was in the last race of the International GT/SVRA Group 10 (big bore, modern GT, slicks) race group in SVRA’s Trans Am combined weekend at Lime Rock Park on Memorial Day Monday.
Both drivers evidently satisfied SVRA’s credentialling requirements for competition in their sanctioned events. The Aston driver is a plastic surgeon in or around DC, IIRC. Did track days, then marque specific race events, then PWC with David Russell’s Automatic Racing. Always in an Aston. The Porsche driver was accepted by SVRA and supported by a strong PCA and Historic Racing prep shop with excellent mentoring capabilities.
Still trying to to figure out the DE tie in on this thread, with regard to this incident on this weekend. What am I missing?
Nothing to do with any DE or test and tune day.
It was in the last race of the International GT/SVRA Group 10 (big bore, modern GT, slicks) race group in SVRA’s Trans Am combined weekend at Lime Rock Park on Memorial Day Monday.
Both drivers evidently satisfied SVRA’s credentialling requirements for competition in their sanctioned events. The Aston driver is a plastic surgeon in or around DC, IIRC. Did track days, then marque specific race events, then PWC with David Russell’s Automatic Racing. Always in an Aston. The Porsche driver was accepted by SVRA and supported by a strong PCA and Historic Racing prep shop with excellent mentoring capabilities.
Still trying to to figure out the DE tie in on this thread, with regard to this incident on this weekend. What am I missing?
06-01-2019, 11:50 AM
#54
The tie in to DE is racers often attend my events to test & tune. Or come for "practice" at a DE. Happens all the time. It's like also having someone say I Instruct for such & such group. Does not mean you are Coaching with my involved events.
06-02-2019, 11:43 AM
#55
Wow....
06-02-2019, 02:08 PM
#56
Can we de-escalate this a little bit, lifetime bans?! The #22 Aston Martin was clearly at fault and bears responsibility for the incident. However this was racing and incidents occur...facts! Ideally, the driver of the #22 would have accepted responsibility for the incident and offered to offset some, if not all, of the Cup car driver’s damages. Not doing so makes him a douche, sure, but bans? Unless the #22 AM driver has a repeated history of such behavior I would think talks of ‘bans’ are a bit premature. Guys it’s a racing event, bad things can and do happen on track. To the OP, again sorry this happened to your car. I’m happy you were not seriously injured. The lack of remorse from the #22 AM driver was terrible.
06-02-2019, 02:20 PM
#57
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Wow indeed. From the original video I assumed that the AM driver over-cooked it and his momentum carried him out. From that video it looks like he punted the Cup trying to optimize track position for the next turn. Absolutely no reason to do that there, it wouldn't have cost him more then a 10th or two.
06-02-2019, 03:17 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by sbelles
Wow indeed. From the original video I assumed that the AM driver over-cooked it and his momentum carried him out. From that video it looks like he punted the Cup trying to optimize track position for the next turn. Absolutely no reason to do that there, it wouldn't have cost him more then a 10th or two.
06-03-2019, 11:00 PM
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Can we de-escalate this a little bit, lifetime bans?! The #22 Aston Martin was clearly at fault and bears responsibility for the incident. However this was racing and incidents occur...facts! Ideally, the driver of the #22 would have accepted responsibility for the incident and offered to offset some, if not all, of the Cup car driver’s damages. Not doing so makes him a douche, sure, but bans? Unless the #22 AM driver has a repeated history of such behavior I would think talks of ‘bans’ are a bit premature. Guys it’s a racing event, bad things can and do happen on track. To the OP, again sorry this happened to your car. I’m happy you were not seriously injured. The lack of remorse from the #22 AM driver was terrible.
We can most definitely de-escalate this.
I race, and understand that s..t happens.
This appears to be a deliberate punt.
A punt with no remorse is quite inexcusable is all I'm saying.
06-04-2019, 08:55 AM
#60
Three Wheelin'
Did you forget a “not” in the statement above? it hadn’t occurred to me that this move might be deliberate.
Either way, a sh*t move to run the Cup off, and again in apparently not apologizing.
Either way, a sh*t move to run the Cup off, and again in apparently not apologizing.
Last edited by stownsen914; 06-04-2019 at 12:40 PM.