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Old 03-25-2019, 02:17 PM
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Old 03-26-2019, 11:09 AM
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I thought the main benefit was that they matched the yellow seatbelts.
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I thought the main benefit was that they matched the yellow seatbelts.
No, they match the $1,000 CF floor mats.
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I've used my PCCB for about 12 hours of track use, including COTA which is not the easiest on brakes. The performance/feel/feedback is superior to any steel setup I've used on track.

The fault is only the replacement cost. I'll likely be putting in a set of Girodisc steel conversion rotors soon, unless I can find a cheap set of lightly used carbon rotors (unlikely).

The ideal PCCB driver would do drive tours, canyon runs, daily drive and autocross (everything but sustained track usage). If that's the case they'll last 150,000 miles easy. And yes, the wheels would never be dirty

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I thought the main benefit was that they matched the yellow seatbelts.
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No, they match the $1,000 CF floor mats.
Any specific examples you can point to of PCCB owner doing this? In my case, there is not one piece of carbon fiber on my car, or anything yellow other than the calipers. Some of us prefer function over form.
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Originally Posted by Zach L View Post
Any specific examples you can point to of PCCB owner doing this? In my case, there is not one piece of carbon fiber on my car, or anything yellow other than the calipers. Some of us prefer function over form.
Except that most people get it as bling-bling. I mean, we've been talking for years and years and years about why PCCBs are sh!tty for the track.....
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Except that most people get it as bling-bling. I mean, we've been talking for years and years and years about why PCCBs are sh!tty for the track.....
People that want bling-bling don't bother getting PCCB... they just paint the stock calipers yellow

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Originally Posted by Zach L
People that want bling-bling don't bother getting PCCB... they just paint the stock calipers yellow
Did you buy your car with PCCB? What brake system did you have before?
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Originally Posted by the_vetman View Post
Except that most people get it as bling-bling. I mean, we've been talking for years and years and years about why PCCBs are sh!tty for the track.....
Just to clarify, PCCBs are not "sh!tty for the track", on the contrary, from experience (having tracked both PCCBs and Girodisc), PCCBs perform incredibly well on track and are amazing. However when they wear, like all consummables do, their replacement cost is astronomical. PCCBs aren't sh!tty for the track, they are merely an extremely expensive option for heavy track users. Hopefully if/when the replacement costs of PCCBs trends down, they will be an economical option for track use.
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Originally Posted by Zach L View Post
I've used my PCCB for about 12 hours of track use, including COTA which is not the easiest on brakes. The performance/feel/feedback is superior to any steel setup I've used on track.

The fault is only the replacement cost. I'll likely be putting in a set of Girodisc steel conversion rotors soon, unless I can find a cheap set of lightly used carbon rotors (unlikely).

The ideal PCCB driver would do drive tours, canyon runs, daily drive and autocross (everything but sustained track usage). If that's the case they'll last 150,000 miles easy. And yes, the wheels would never be dirty



Any specific examples you can point to of PCCB owner doing this? In my case, there is not one piece of carbon fiber on my car, or anything yellow other than the calipers. Some of us prefer function over form.
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People that want bling-bling don't bother getting PCCB... they just paint the stock calipers yellow
Umm, no.
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Originally Posted by Akunob View Post
Just to clarify, PCCBs are not "sh!tty for the track", on the contrary, from experience (having tracked both PCCBs and Girodisc), PCCBs perform incredibly well on track and are amazing. However when they wear, like all consummables do, their replacement cost is astronomical. PCCBs aren't sh!tty for the track, they are merely an extremely expensive option for heavy track users. Hopefully if/when the replacement costs of PCCBs trends down, they will be an economical option for track use.
That's what I meant by sh!tty, not that their performance is terrible. I mean, who wants to pay $25,000 every time they have to change out their brakes? Asked in a different way: do any of the pro racing teams use PCCB or CCB? Do Cup cars come with PCCB?
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Pro teams use exactly what the rules tell them to use, they have no choice.
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Originally Posted by the_vetman View Post
That's what I meant by sh!tty, not that their performance is terrible. I mean, who wants to pay $25,000 every time they have to change out their brakes? Asked in a different way: do any of the pro racing teams use PCCB or CCB? Do Cup cars come with PCCB?
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