Paddy

Seems silly to not use them. As for solid or blinking it depends on the sanctioning body. For BMWCCA they require flashing at all times, NASA wants them solid under rain conditions.

Difference between the Pegasus lamp vs the Lifeline FIA lamp. One car has the Pegasus lamp, it's pretty much useless when you're behind the car.
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cmac

Good idea. I was thinking about this after Summit and forgot about it. I'll e-mail Walt as well.

I'd like there to be some consistency with how the rain light works. It seems most likely that people who race in two groups would be PCA/NASA, so perhaps we just go with the NASA rules...?

LuigiVampa

Don't know what the answer would be to that but always nice to see what works elsewhere instead of reinventing the wheel.

I figure even if I am the lone car out there with a rain light there is some benefit to not getting rear ending in the rain. Would also be nice if the car in front of me had a rain light so I didn't boot that car but Rome was not built in a day.

I personally can't think of a single car with a rain light in PCA.

garrett376

Don't all recent (since the 90's for sure) Porsches have rear fog lights built into the brake light? Those aren't effective? (earnestly asks the Southern Cal resident...)

LuigiVampa

In short, no. Even brake lights disappear in the spray.

I was watching my video from my last race in the rain. An orange car in front of me with his lights out disappeared completely from view at about 2-3 car lengths. Another car with his running lights on gave roughly another car length before disappearing. By the end of the front straight I was doing about 130 mph so what is 3 - 4 car lengths at that point if I drive up on a slower car?

Rain lights will make racing in the rain far more enjoyable.

It rains a few times a year in Cali, doesn't it?

Deadeye

MarcD147

So what is the argument against it? Cost?

Just don't race in the rain....

Der ABT

Funny ive been playing around with the other side of the car, first prototype. May have to look in a rear facing one

garrett376

Rig it up for dynamic taunting messages, like "nice pass attempt, you bozo!"

FFaust

Good idea.

Der ABT

Already there....haha


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LuigiVampa

Awesome!

No reason was specified but I can't help but feel that anyone who was against it never raced in the rain!

garrett376

It usually doesn't rain hard enough here to result in what you're talking about - most of the time wipers aren't even needed. It also helps that most people who run Southern Cal races don't have rain tires, so if it does start raining, the number of cars on track goes WAY down.

I'm surprised the newer cars with their LED rear tail lights don't have effective enough fog lights for that situation.

mpruden

If/when PCA adds the rain light requirement, let's hope they piggyback on one of the other standards. From another forum, it looks like the specific rules are at risk of getting out hand for those that race in multiple series.

NASA MA - Steady on all the time
NASA SE - Steady on all the time, under braking: Blinks at 4Hz
NASA GL - No requirement defined
NASA NE - No requirement defined
NASA SoCal - No requirement defined
BMW CR - Leaning towards standard 4Hz blinking operation all the time (Simplest FIA OpMod, although verbiage isn't final)
SCCA - Not required to use a rain light. If used, steady on all the time.
AER - Blinking all the time, under braking: Steady-on
WRL - No requirement defined

mglobe

I'd like one for the street that says "GET OFF THE FECKING PHONE MORON" that I can put in my back window. TIA